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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7t5...e_gdata_player

    Your 5 or 6 is just who got convicted, called a smokescreen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7t5...e_gdata_player

    Your 5 or 6 is just who got convicted, called a smokescreen
    I was actually wrong about needing conviction in order to be called "identified". Being caught by the police and have charges pressed against you is enough.

    So, from the 22 assault rapes in 2010:

    5 people identified, all non-western.

    16 additional assault rapes, 5 committed by ethnic norwegians.

    Your statement that "all rapes are done by foreigners" is undeniably false. No shock there.
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    You can keep saying that but your own authorities say something else, and theysay it right there. They say 41 cases where the subject could be identified. And 41 may not look like a lot but it happens in a relatively small area of a not that big city with a rather small non-western community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    You can keep saying that but your own authorities say something else, and theysay it right there. They say 41 cases where the subject could be identified. And 41 may not look like a lot but it happens in a relatively small area of a not that big city with a rather small non-western community.
    Yes, in the years 2006, 2007 and 2008, there were 41 assault rapes committed according to one statement, and all committed by non-western men. 2009 is too far back in history for me to remember what happened, so I don't have anything to counter that(and by that I mean follow-ups to the story).

    In 2010, however, 5 of 22 rapes were committed by ethnic norwegians. Hence your statement is false even without knowing how many rapes occured in 2009 and 2011.
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    So it is exactly as the report says after all. Can't find any numbers about 2010, report is from 2010 so they obviously can't have them. Doubt they made a new one people could start having doubts about it being an enrichment of Norwegian culture

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    So it is exactly as the report says after all. Can't find any numbers about 2010, report is from 2010 so they obviously can't have them. Doubt they made a new one people could start having doubts about it being an enrichment of Norwegian culture
    Uhm, what?

    The fact is that ethnic norwegians have committed assault rapes in Oslo. By the way, funny how you haven't heard about the other assault rapes(outside Oslo)... Perhaps because they're not dominated by immigrants? The report I posted and which is the basis of your first video is from 2011, with data from 2010. You second video(from 2009, not 2010) points at a "something"(ie. not a report) made in 2009, based on data from 7 rapes in 2006, 20 in 2007 and 14 in 2008.

    As for when the next report is due, it's likely 2013/14 as they've made one every third/fourth year.

    Get thy facts straight. And quit your lying.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Uhm, what?

    The fact is that ethnic norwegians have committed assault rapes in Oslo. By the way, funny how you haven't heard about the other assault rapes(outside Oslo)... Perhaps because they're not dominated by immigrants? The report I posted and which is the basis of your first video is from 2011, with data from 2010. You second video(from 2009, not 2010) points at a "something"(ie. not a report) made in 2009, based on data from 7 rapes in 2006, 20 in 2007 and 14 in 2008.

    As for when the next report is due, it's likely 2013/14 as they've made one every third/fourth year.

    Get thy facts straight. And quit your lying.
    I am just echoing what the report says, if the report is wrong I'm not lying just informed wrongly, but since you just admitted that indeed in all 41 cases it was a non-western i migrant I'm not worried. It's relevant because the big cities are the only places where there are a significant (but still small) non-western community. Where there is no enrichment of Norwegian culture it will of course look different. If the next report is due for 2013 than this was the most recent one. We will see what 2013 has to offer. I bet it will once again not look very good, I got family there and they say it's getting increasingly grimm, they are looking into moving to Canada if they can get a good price for their house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Yes, in the years 2006, 2007 and 2008, there were 41 assault rapes committed according to one statement, and all committed by non-western men.
    What exactly do I not understand then, that is exactly what I claimed.

    About 2010, 5 assault rapes out 22 with a population of non-western immigrants that is about 20% of the population isn't something that I would be very proud about. I am sure you can do the math on how much more likely a non-western immigrant is going to commit this crime. I am also kinda suspicious about the ethnic norwegian thingie, not that I am not going to take your word of it but number-wizards here often count second generation immigrants as native Dutchies to hide the fact that criminality among muslim youths is outragiously high

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    A second generation pakistani wouldn't have light skin and the appearance of a norwegian. It could of course be a Swede or something. The point is that the identity is unknown, all there is to go after is the witness description. I find it hard to believe that a witness is able to tell a first gen immigrant from a second gen immigrant. Your paranoia strikes again.

    As for my point:

    You claimed that every single one of the assault rapes in Oslo were committed by muslim immigrants, then you changed it to immigrants. It was mostly given without a time(which must mean that you refer to the current day), sometimes you talked abiut the last 5 years. This is undeniably false, and my point has been to prove just that.
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    This is so off the point that the point has gotten bored, gone home, hooked up with it's old highschool band, became famous and is currently jacking it on a san diego pavement, totally oblivious that there is someone who used to be on it other than female groupies and expensive whores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    A second generation pakistani wouldn't have light skin and the appearance of a norwegian. It could of course be a Swede or something. The point is that the identity is unknown, all there is to go after is the witness description. I find it hard to believe that a witness is able to tell a first gen immigrant from a second gen immigrant. Your paranoia strikes again.

    As for my point:

    You claimed that every single one of the assault rapes in Oslo were committed by muslim immigrants, then you changed it to immigrants. It was mostly given without a time(which must mean that you refer to the current day), sometimes you talked abiut the last 5 years. This is undeniably false, and my point has been to prove just that.
    No I didn't, I said reported ones

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    As for your video, I found a glaring error even earlier this time. The video says it's from April 10. 2010, while in the real world(which is a different one from the world the racist vlad tepes lives on), it's from 2009. Obviously, they felt it was more up to date if they bumped it up a year.

    The data in the article is from 06-08, and not very up to date.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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