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    These Skythian archers often carry a slightly larger version of the composite bow that their fellow cavalrymen employ. This fact, together with the advantage of shooting from a more stable platform than a moving horse, tends to give their missiles somewhat longer range and more power than those typically shot by horse archers. To some extent, they compensate in this way for their comparative lack of mobility. Certainly, substantial numbers of foot bowmen can make sure that horse archers stay away from the area of the battlefield where they are deployed or inflict substantial damage on them, should they be foolish enough to engage in a protracted missile exchange. Of course, they will not be able to catch and destroy the elusive riders if the latter decide to avoid the arrow duel. In that regard, it is important that these archers are not lured too far away from supporting heavier infantry or cavalry whether in the pursuit of horse archers or for any other reason. They are not well outfitted for hand to hand combat, as all they carry is a short sword or small pickaxe and no armor but their thick jackets and bashlyk felt caps. If unsupported, they will be easy prey for cavalry, or aggressive infantry fast enough to catch them.

    Along their history, the Skythians of the northern coast of the Black Sea underwent a process of settlement and sedentarization. The phenomenon had started quite early, as Herodotos already spoke of farming Skythian groups, but it seems to have picked up pace as Sarmatian pressure pushed the Skythians out from much of their former lands and restricted them to a much reduced territory (the western part of the Crimea and the lower Dniepr) that could not have supported a large nomadic population. This process resulted in Skythian armies fielding increasing numbers of foot troops. A good portion of those seem to have been bowmen, as many settled Skythians still favored their traditional weapon.



    Sounds like dismounted cavalry to me . The units in question are not self bow weilding levy archers, rather dismounted steppe archers .


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    That's solely about the Scythians (they fell out of power, trading and living with hellenic settlers was the only way to survive: it's not dismounted cavalry, is financially broke former cavalry), not the scythian bow wielding units...
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    I made the thread with Skythians in mind ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arjos View Post
    That's solely about the Scythians (they fell out of power, trading and living with hellenic settlers was the only way to survive: it's not dismounted cavalry, is financially broke former cavalry), not the scythian bow wielding units...
    The Madian archers are an elite force too, though. The equation foot=levy is not really solid. Still I've no problem with slinger ranges...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kival View Post
    The equation foot=levy is not really solid.
    It seems likely that at least some of these infantry were those of the Parthians too impoverished to afford to fight mounted, or those whose mounted skills had declined as a result of settled life to such an extent that it was no longer possible for them to serve in their traditional role.
    You sure?
    And I don't really know about the mardians being elite, in the 6th-4th centuries BC np, in the hellenistic era? I don't think so...

    BTW never said levy, just "poorer"...
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    I support Lazy statement but only becouse he promised me cookies...:D
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    I did not .


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    Then I dont support it anymore...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazy O View Post
    I did not .
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