Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfhylwyr View Post
This is nothing revolutionary, it is bog standard civic nationalism. The same type of nationalism that happens to be dominant in Britain and France, which continue to have serious problems integrating immigrants.
Well, we don't have those problems.

You don't have a secret because you have never really assimilated anybody.
If you put it that way, then we really have nothing to worry about.

Like I said, within Europe, the Irish or Germans wouldn't even count. It's not like we don't have small, successful Asian communities here. But when they start pouring in from the third world, there's gonna be problems.
Then do what we do: stop giving them money. Give nothing and expect nothing in return. Those of them who are worth something will float up, the losers will sink. Either way, they'll only have themselves to thank or to blame.

It's a bit of banter you get between neighbouring European states because of their history of conflict and rivalry. It just doesn't compare to say, the culture shock of modern Muslim immigrants.
I will not dispute that there's more of a gap between euros and muslims than it is between gringos and latinos. Still, the problem is with the European approach to the problem: you're paying them, and expect them to change their ways in return. What you need to do is stop paying them and stop expecting anything. Once the gravy train stops, those who want to succeed will change accordingly.

The culture shock aspect of Hispanic immigrants is probably somewhere in between. The might integrate they might not. I just think you are too complacent.
Latino culture is already a significant part of the mainstream U.S. culture. It's not nearly as much of a culture shock as you might think.

I've covered these examples and like I said for you to be complacent based on those experiences just shows that you don't appreciate what is happening right now. IIRC black people make up something like 13% of the US population, so if their birth rates are fairly average then I would expect around 1/3 of the coming generation to be Hispanic (feel free to correct this if wrong).
And? What difference does it make if the guy next door has the last name Lopez instead of Smith? The American born generation will be overwhelmingly American.

Now, I'm pretty sure that the Irish, Jews, or Chinese never made up anything like 1/3 of the US population. And out of those lot you only really assimilated the Irish.
What makes you so confident that having a massive Hispanic population won't significantly alter American culture, American politics, everyday American life etc.
They already have affected our culture, our politics and our everyday life, and you know what: nothing happened. No lightning bolts have struck. We do not repel other cultures, we absorb them. We take the best out of everything and shed the worst.