Israeli hate on negroes

[Kadagar_AV]

http://www.jpost.com/NationalNews/Ar...aspx?id=270165

I don't think I need to write much here, plenty of things in the article to discuss.

For me? I am baffled, a Swedish politician could never had said anything like that.

[Ironside]

He's the SD equivalent in a country where they are currently expanding settlements in a pure occupation grab.

Then again, our regulars are making trice stupid statements instead. Debating climate is much nicer than that though.

[Hooahguy]

Yup. Saw a ton of this when I was there. Blatant racism is everywhere. I was talking to a Yemenite soldier who was complaining that he was being passed over for promotion because he was Yemenite.


Also I think this line was eerie:

"Put everyone without exception into prison or detention camps,"

Well, it only took like six decades to forget history. Ironic for us Jews whose motto seems to be "never forget."

[Kadagar_AV]

Yeah, that line made me go "WTF"...

I am starting to become deeply troubled by the Israeli's. They seem to have some post-WWII-get-out-of-jail-for-free card a'la in the Monopoly game, I just wonder how much longer it lasts?

Also, bordering Iran, how many comments like that can the American populace swallow before they become less inclined to support Israel? I guess this has been quieted down in the US media, but I do wonder what African Americans feel about it.

[Hooahguy]

Im still trying to find a way to release the grip AIPAC has on our government.
Also why I refuse to attend any AIPAC conference, even if it means a free trip to DC.

[Lemur]

how many comments like that can the American populace swallow before they become less inclined to support Israel?

I crossed that bridge a long time ago. My brother has had extensive business dealings in Israel, and his white-boy take: "There is nobody on God's green earth more racist than the Israelis."

[Hooahguy]

I spent the past year laughing at people who say that Israel is a place that accepts everyone.

Unless you arent Jewish. In that case you arent welcome in Israel except as a tourist so you can be cheated out of your money.

[Kadagar_AV]

How would they treat a tall blonde swedish guy?

[Kralizec]

I spent the past year laughing at people who say that Israel is a place that accepts everyone.

Unless you arent Jewish. In that case you arent welcome in Israel except as a tourist so you can be cheated out of your money.

Isn't there a fair amount of prejudice (and sometimes outright racism) among the jewish Israelis as well? I.e. persian jews are [insert negative stereotype]
Or at least that's what I've heard somewhere - I'll take it back if I'm wrong. IIRC the previous president of Israel, the iranian-jewish one who resigned in a rape scandal, tried to play the persecution card.

[HoreTore]

While Shas and the settlers most certainly represent a textbook definition of insanity, one must never forget that they are just a minority. And unfortunately, all countries have such minorities.

[Hooahguy]

How would they treat a tall blonde swedish guy?

Just another tourist.

Isn't there a fair amount of prejudice (and sometimes outright racism) among the jewish Israelis as well? I.e. persian jews are [insert negative stereotype]
Or at least that's what I've heard somewhere - I'll take it back if I'm wrong.

Yup. Persians are dirty, Ethiopians are crooks and cant be trusted (probably arent even Jewish!), American Jews are stupid, and only Moroccan Jews can make decent Falafel. Which might actually be true.

[HoreTore]

Isn't there a fair amount of prejudice (and sometimes outright racism) among the jewish Israelis as well? I.e. persian jews are [insert negative stereotype]
Or at least that's what I've heard somewhere - I'll take it back if I'm wrong. IIRC the previous president of Israel, the iranian-jewish one who resigned in a rape scandal, tried to play the persecution card.

My bet is that the feelings are about the same as the feelings the prussian germans faced when they moved to germany after ww2...

[Kralizec]

My bet is that the feelings are about the same as the feelings the prussian germans faced when they moved to germany after ww2...

I don't know how similar they are (not very, says my gut) allthough Prussians were indeed not necessarily popular with other Germans. Adenauer in particular; Der Spiegel once had an article about some newly released documents suggesting that he wanted to give away west Berlin to the eastern bloc to gain Leipzig and some surrounding territory; because he disliked all things Prussian in general (in part because he was a staunch protestant catholic) and Berlin in particular.
/thread derail

[HoreTore]

Looks like it's not limited to Israel.

[Skullheadhq]

http://www.jpost.com/NationalNews/Ar...aspx?id=270165

I don't think I need to write much here, plenty of things in the article to discuss.

For me? I am baffled, a Swedish politician could never had said anything like that.

You have no idea what it's like in South Tel-Aviv with all those immigrants, now do you?

[Hax]

And you do?

Discrimination of Sephardim and Mizrahim is not a new thing, it's been around basically since the founding of the state. There's this brand of Israeli cinema in which the Mizrahis are typically regarded as charming cavemen.

[Hooahguy]

And you do?

Discrimination of Sephardim and Mizrahim is not a new thing, it's been around basically since the founding of the state. There's this brand of Israeli cinema in which the Mizrahis are typically regarded as charming cavemen.

I found that the Sephardim prided themselves as being "true" Israelis, while others mock them for being "uncouth barbarians."

[Rhyfelwyr]

Ulster Scots are the true Israelis.

[gaelic cowboy]

Ulster Scots are the true Israelis.

I knew there was a reason you took one of my green fields

[Ironside]

Well, it only took like six decades to forget history. Ironic for us Jews whose motto seems to be "never forget."

I might very well be wrong, "what to remember? I was never there" might be more true in this case.

Or to be more clear and as a general question: How much does time of migration and original country influence political stance in Israel?

[Hooahguy]

I might very well be wrong, "what to remember? I was never there" might be more true in this case.

Well there are still a good number of survivors left, though the number is dwindling.

Or to be more clear and as a general question: How much does time of migration and original country influence political stance in Israel?

Sorry, I dont get your question.

[Ironside]

Well there are still a good number of survivors left, though the number is dwindling.


Sorry, I dont get your question.

How many of the more radical Isrealis is actually related to holocaust victims/survivors or refugees? And a more general question of how those different groups still have different political opinions. The old hardcore Zionists should've moved to Palestina before things started to go really sour. It's merely a thought and might be completely wrong.

[lars573]

I crossed that bridge a long time ago. My brother has had extensive business dealings in Israel, and his white-boy take: "There is nobody on God's green earth more racist than the Israelis."

He needs to visit Japan more then.

[The Stranger]

He needs to visit Japan more then.

or russia, or morroco, or china...

[Montmorency]

It's official - everyone's racist except western Europe!

[Kadagar_AV]

It's official - everyone's racist except western Europe!

[lars573]

It's official - everyone's racist except western Europe!

That's hardly what we mean. But most western nations that I know of wouldn't allow a business to put up a sign that says "no service to foreginers" (and that it means the equivalent of whites only) like Japan does.

[Major Robert Dump]

So if a Japanese restuarant put up a sign that said "No service to foreigners", and then I taped my eyes back and put on some Buck Teeth AKA every Asian character Jerry Lewis ever played, and then tried to sneak into the store and blend in as a foreigner..... would that make me a racist? I mean, they started it.

[a completely inoffensive name]

So if a Japanese restuarant put up a sign that said "No service to foreigners", and then I taped my eyes back and put on some Buck Teeth AKA every Asian character Jerry Lewis ever played, and then tried to sneak into the store and blend in as a foreigner..... would that make me a racist? I mean, they started it.

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[lars573]

So if a Japanese restuarant put up a sign that said "No service to foreigners", and then I taped my eyes back and put on some Buck Teeth AKA every Asian character Jerry Lewis ever played, and then tried to sneak into the store and blend in as a foreigner..... would that make me a racist? I mean, they started it.

Foreigner also covers the Korean and Chinese population of Japan you know. So no matter what kind of Fleisher-esque racist caricature you tried to pass yourself off as you'd still be foreigner.