Top 10 historical Butthurts in the Eb era

[seleucid empire]

Hey I was just wondering if anyone here could compile a list of the top 10 defeats during the EB era. Im talking about battles where one side was COMPLETELY pwned :)

[Arjos]

- Cannae
- Trebbia
- Teutoburg
- Arausio
- Aquae Sextiae
- Vercellae
- Telamon
- Ecbatana
- Paneion
- Actium or Drepana

[Blxz]

Caesar in the senate room comes to mind. I think one side was completely unharmed while the other had ~46 stab wounds. Maybe not what you were looking for though?

[seleucid empire]

what about carrhae? where abouts would that go on the list? I know it doesnt have as many casualties as some battles listed here such as cannae and Aquae Sextiae but the entire roman force was destroyed aswell and by a force of 10 000 Parthians. How large was a parthian army anyway was 10 000 the normal size??

[gamegeek2]

Arjos mentioned Paneion, but I think that was a pretty regular defeat, if decisive. I mean getting cataphracts charging in your rear will leave your army quite butthurt, but...

[seleucid empire]

Arjos mentioned Paneion, but I think that was a pretty regular defeat, if decisive. I mean getting cataphracts charging in your rear will leave your army quite butthurt, but...

hmm yeh i was wondering about the hellenistic wars. It seemed that even though they had really large battles such as raphia and ipsos they didnt really destroy the other person's army. At Raphia it was a full rout of the Seleucids yet they lost like 8-10 000 men out of the 70 000

[Arjos]

The battle line covered an area of 3-4 km and only 10.000 survivors managed to take refuge in Sidon...
The rest of the army was abandoned, completely encircled...
It must have been an engagement on the scale of Raphia; also let's not forget that day signed the end of Ptolemaic rule in the Levant...

In the following years Ptolemaios V didn't send any support to Roma, in my view his military force had been cut drastically (Skopas was sent to recruit more mercenaries, in order to face a possible invasion of Egypt) and couldn't afford foreign expeditions and just dealt with rebellions (which started an offensive in the aftermath of Paneion)...

[Fluvius Camillus]

Even if you discount the excaggeration, all major engagements of the Senatus Populusque Romanus (excluding Bythinian allies) versus Pontos and Artaxiad Hayasdan in the Mithridatic wars. And don't forget Pharnaces, Veni, vidi vici!

~Fluvius

[Goth47]

I am not an expert on Alexanders successors so I have to apologise that all my conributions come from romes rise to power
Not necessarily in order Here goes
1. Cannae
2. Lake Trasimene
3. Trebbia
4. Ilipa
5. Pydna
6. Zama
7. Bagradas
8. Telamon
9. Metaurus
10. Magnesia

Goth

[stratigos vasilios]

Any battle Fluv plays, their always heroic victories...

[Moros]

I am not an expert on Alexanders successors so I have to apologise that all my conributions come from romes rise to power
Not necessarily in order Here goes
1. Cannae
2. Lake Trasimene
3. Trebbia
4. Ilipa
5. Pydna
6. Zama
7. Bagradas
8. Telamon
9. Metaurus
10. Magnesia

Goth

Wow Goth! Great to see you drop by!

[Goth47]

Hello Moros my friend, yeah I have been absent for a long time because of real life, much has happened over the last 2 years but after building a new computer for myself recently, I installed EB and have enjoyed my first game in ages, How are you buddy and how is the team?
Goth

[moonburn]

i would say numantia particullary the last one before scipio where the romans had to swallow their pride against a much smaller nation

[Moros]

Hello Moros my friend, yeah I have been absent for a long time because of real life, much has happened over the last 2 years but after building a new computer for myself recently, I installed EB and have enjoyed my first game in ages, How are you buddy and how is the team?
Goth

I'm good. Team is getting smaller though , but were determined. Wish you some good gaming. Do drop by more often!