Pirate Ninja Robot Zombie Mafia IN SPACE [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

When was the last time woad played? You make it sound like he would be super attentive as mafia, but I haven't seen him around for awhile and figured his skills would have gotten rusty.

This may not be the "last" time woad played, but I remember he's taken several long breaks, and one of the last things I remember him doing was kicking my cheese-encrusted ass all over the Trouble In Waiting game in a flawless game as mafia, with me screaming my head off to everyone else that he and his partner were mafia, and only other dead townies listening to me, and even then only after much protesting.

Woad&fangs are serious business.

[Askthepizzaguy]

To be honest, I was genuinely frustrated at being voted for and lynched for no reason. :P

The self-vote was a tactic. You don't actually want to be lynched and outed as mafia. Being frustrated, yeah, but you chose to show it and use it as a sympathy gamble. The best kind of acting contains your own actual feelings.

[Jarema]

@ ATPG, I think that you are generaly right about concentrating lynch on abstainers/no voters (the ones who avoid woging)
I believe that it is good because it: does not allow mafia to hide easily (as you mentioned), but also encourages more active play from townies. Which is, again, good for two reasons. First, it generates material for later analyses (and therefore benefits town). Second, it makes game more interesting. I, for one, find it more interesting both as mafia and as a town to do something in a game thread, at the very least voting every day. And I also believe it makes game more interesting for others.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The game would be boring if everyone abstained, and the game would be boring if we policy lynched abstainers right off the bat every game. I try to be less predictable and give them a break every other game or so, but it's definitely the kind of behavior mafia like to employ when possible. Certain players anyway.

That said, I'm only advocating going after them first because I can't analyze their behavior by endgame whereas the others will have generated some pattern.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Also, could someone talk to me who isn't scum?

[edse]

Also, could someone talk to me who isn't scum?

Hi.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hi.

Lynch edse.

[edse]

Lynch edse.

What? I nailed the "look like you don't care that you are about to get lynched"-towniness last dayphase!

[Askthepizzaguy]

What? I nailed the "look like you don't care that you are about to get lynched"-towniness last dayphase!

Mr. edse, what you've just said is one of the most insanely scummy things I have ever heard. At no point in your befuddled, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this game is now scummier for having listened to it and not lynched you immediately. I award you no townie points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Or something. Billy Madison is awesome.

[Double A]

It made sense to me. I did devise the code, after all.

[Askthepizzaguy]

It made sense to me. I did devise the code, after all.

You're scum so it doesn't count.

[Double A]

That's discriminatory!

[Jolt]

The self-vote was a tactic. You don't actually want to be lynched and outed as mafia. Being frustrated, yeah, but you chose to show it and use it as a sympathy gamble. The best kind of acting contains your own actual feelings.

Of course. That's the thing. If I was really a townie, I don't think I would have done anything differently.

[thefluffyone93]

AARGH, YE SCALLYWAGS!

PREPARE YOURSELVES FOR THE RELENTLESS PILLAGING AND LOOTING ABOUT TO BEFALL YE!
AND THEN WHEN I'M ALL DONE AND YER ALL TIED UP, YE CAPTAIN WILL WALK
THE SPACE PLANK INTO THE MAW OF THE LEGENDARY SPACE KRAKEN!

AND FOR ALL YOU COWARDLY NINJAS THAT BE HIDING IN THE SHADOWS, BEWARE!
I HAVE GUNS!

Yeah, I'm totally not a pirate.
I'm actually a laser Dinosaur that caused the
extinction of the Martians after they came in peace and
started ripping on their v-neck guitars.

Yep, totally.

Discuss.

[Double A]

Fluffy for 2012

[thefluffyone93]

Fluffy for 2012

If I'm elected, I promise free health care!
Which we might need if we put all our money into gaming equipment!

And of course I would-

AVAST YE SCURVY DOGS!
I FORGOT TO MENTION HOW TO SUMMON THE SPACE KRAKEN!
YOU ALL MUST CHANT.....
PH'NGLUI MGLW'NAFH CTHULHU R'LYEH WGAH'NAGL FHTAGN!

AND BE SURE TO HAVE PLENTY OF PINEAPPLES!
AARGH!

-And that's what I would do when I'm elected!

[robbiecon]

Wow, both games on here I've failed to vote twice. I gotta be more active.

[Choxorn]

I only didn't vote because I couldn't see what the case on everyone was.

That being said, edse's recent posts are megascummy, and he should be lynched.

Also, Fluffy/Beefy 2012.

[Zack]

Ron Paul 2012

[Zack]

This is why it's pretty much pointless for vanilla townies to continue playing past death- no new info, no info to start with, and nobody really listens. Therefore, the discussion dies out.

Where are your scum hiding?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

1) Voting for Woad
2) Voting for Edse
3) Nominating someone else (voting someone alone)
4) Abstaining
5) Not present


The mafiosi are hiding in one of these places, because that is the entirety of the player roster.

What is the likelihood that they are voting for Woad?

Risk factor: Being one of three voters for a townie, and lead candidate, increases suspicion to oneself, particularly on such narrow margins of winning the lynch.
Gain factor: One dead townie.
Case: All too easy, Woad defended a scumbag.

The case means it's going to be easy enough for the lynch to succeed, but the lack of large wagon means the blame factor for the lynch is going to be divided more generously in your direction. As such, the risk/gain factor is a bit high. Could there be one here? Maybe, but several? Doubtful. At least two voting for Woad are townie. Double A remains the highest risk factor for being scum IMO of these three.

I wouldn't pressure any of these three candidates right now.


Voting for Edse?

Risk factor: Not appreciably different from voting for a one-vote candidate. Backlash here is unlikely to be different either.
Gain factor: Ensuring that a fellow mafioso does not die from a single vote placed on them, followed by one lucky vote.
Case: Case?

Voting for Edse makes sense as a defensive maneuver, with the second voter being slightly more likely to be scummy than the first, as it joins an existing candidate to outvote all the one-shot candidates, forcing two additional votes to destroy a voted scumbag instead of just one. However, this assumes that the scumbags have any reason to act defensively. With only a single vote on the candidates other than woad, it's less likely that they'd make such a move with that purpose in mind.

If a person who voted for Edse survives to the endgame, they could use another look. Until then, they can be safely placed on the backburner. So I wouldn't pressure the Edse voters right now.


Voting for someone nobody else voted for?

Risk: Likely raises suspicion on you from the person you voted for. Otherwise, not much. Being accusatory but not causing a death allows you to blend in. There are also several people doing the same thing, voting but not in deadly fashion.
Gain: Look like you're scum-hunting and being active and participatory, thus avoiding any anti-lurker campaigns, without real risk.
Case: Don't really need to make one.

Six people fit this category and they do so without really distinguishing themselves radically from one another. Of note- Wideyedwanderer failed to vote once again, meaning he's approaching WOG status. As such, he's likely to be wogged, which means Fluffy's vote is more or less wasted. Not that unexpected. Edse voted for Jarema, Jarema voted for Edse. Monty voted for Visorslash, Visorslash voted for Woad, Woad voted for Monty and was innocent. Atheotes voted for dcmort, and dcmort abstained, making him a passive target. SalmonSoil voted for Double A, and Double A voted for Woad.

Specific risk factor: No risk involved for those voting for Wideyedwanderer or dcmort.
Folks voting for people who are in turn voting for other active players are creating voting footprints that can be analyzed by the endgame. Creates more of a risk but not one that is particularly prohibitive for most players.

These people are doing behaviors which create limited information but is also low risk in the long term. Pressure here is still a good idea because odds are very good one of these is scum.


Abstaining:
Xehh II, Csargo, Choxorn, dcmort93

Not unusual for Csargo or Xehh or dcmort. But they also know that they can get away with it. This indicates activity and thus interest in the game without forming a voting pattern which can be analyzed, there are also several others doing so which further reduces the risk of being accused for that reason.

As such, you are gaining the least amount of information from this group, they are behaving in a manner which is least productive for the town, and they are benefiting from the least risky action a scumbag can currently take.

I would direct your lynching efforts here. The usual abstainers may well be townie, but they may also be mafia, and you won't be able to tell which. these are also folks who will abstain as mafia because they know they can get away with it. Remove the cover for scums to hide in.


Not Present:

Meaning closer to being wogged. Wogging is a free lynch, and will apply to scumbags or townies alike if it keeps up. As such, you do not need to pressure the folks who have failed to vote twice.

The folks who failed to be present once are like abstainers, except this one does not have the balls to actually be on record as abstaining, hoping people will not notice that they're not participating, whereas an abstainer is acknowledging that they aren't pressuring anyone. As such, an eye is warranted on Major Robert Dump and Classical_Hero.


If I were to take a wild guess as to where the scumbags are hiding, it's likely spread between your abstainers and your one-vote accusers. Why? Because it becomes much harder to narrow it down further than that, and creates two generic categories for them to hide in which are both low-risk.

For informational purposes, you should punish the abstainers/non voters first, so that you're left with active and aggressive townies for the endgame which can mop up the one-vote accusers. You will have a better voting record to analyze that way.

Long story short: I'd advocate to accuse a nonvoter now, accuse a one-voter later.

More information would be revealed if no proven townie directed the lynching, because then it's easier to shift blame, so I won't specify who I think needs to die first.

Which of these folks would you want to lynch first?

• Xehh II
• Csargo
• Choxorn
• dcmort93
• Major Robert Dump
• classical_hero

Just curious. And of this list:

• Montmorency
• edse
• atheotes
• thefluffyone93
• SalmonSoil

Who would you lynch first?

[Csargo]

Odd, considering your vote for Edse. Then again, I've lost all hope of any of your responses ever making sense.

Now you know my secret pain.

[Double A]

Not much of a secret.

[thefluffyone93]

[Chaotix]

Sleep cycle ended. Standby for video playback of events.

[thefluffyone93]

[Chaotix]

DAY 1
[SLEEP CYCLE 3]

The submerged city was enormous and labyrinthine. Its passageways twisted and turned, lit only by floating green orbs, and it was quite easy to get lost if one did not know where he was going.

Of course, the only way for Csargo to have known that would have been by setting off to explore on his own, explicitly against the orders of the Captain. Which, for some reason, was exactly what Csargo had done. And he certainly didn’t know where he was going.

Csargo didn’t entirely know himself why he had left the camp. He tried to tell himself at first it was because he wanted to help the Captain and crew of the Galactic Chutzpah. Then it was because he wanted all the glory of finding what they needed and coming back triumphant, all for himself. And after a while he thought perhaps it was just because the glowing green lights looked really pretty, and this place had a sort of ancient beauty. But as he forged on and on, the explanation was in the back of his mind. There were voices calling out to Csargo, drawing him deeper and deeper inwards. The others didn’t hear it yet, but it would take hold in their minds soon enough, and then they would follow.

With his ADVENTURE GEAR set to FLIPPER MODE, Csargo had surprising mobility in the ocean of ammonia pressing down around him. He could swim rapidly when he needed too, and also could detract the flippers and walk on the seafloor using a modified Space Gravity device. But the heavy helmet did not afford Csargo much peripheral vision, which is why he did not notice the murky figure following close behind him.

Not until he screamed a warcry into him Voice Projector and charged straight at him with an outstretched Laser Hook on the end of his arm.

Csargo tried to get out of the way, but he was too slow to react. Another split second and that Laser Hook would cut through his helmet, and his head with it.

But in that split second another shadowy figure appeared in front of Csargo from out of nowhere, blocking the Pirate’s attack. Sparks flew off the Laser Hook as it clashed with a pair of flashy new Laser Nunchucks.

PIRATE VS NINJA???

“Yarr! Get out of me way, landlubber, or I’ll gut ye like a fish just the same!”

“What are you talking about? Landlubber isn’t even in this game!”

“Wha- I know that, ye scallywag. I was just tryin’ ter sound like a Pirate. Yarr!”

“Well, I’m afraid I can’t let you have him. This one is mine to kill.”

“Over my dead body!”

“So be it.”

The Pirate and the Ninja clashed with each other viciously. Sparks flew off of hook and nunchuck as they slammed together, and they whirred with power with each swing that they took. The Pirate’s range was limited by the length of his arm, and it looked like the Ninja had the upper hand… until the Pirate pulled out his Space Musket as well. Then the match was even.

Csargo was terrified of it all. More often than not, their wide slashes would come dangerously close to hitting him, and every time he tried to escape one of them would cut off hit exit with a snarl and a shove. Only armed with a Shockstick himself and with very little training, he didn’t even try to fight back.

The Ninja was much faster, but the unorthodox nature of his nunchucks meant that every time he missed he was left with a recoil and was vulnerable to attack. The Pirate’s heavy, lumbering swings didn’t often come close to the Ninja, but when they did it seemed to Csargo like they might cleave straight through him or shatter the chain between the two laser bars of his nunchucks.

Come to think of it, how was he holding the laser ends and not burning his hands off? This weapon didn’t make any sense.

One lucky thrust by the Pirate drove the Ninja backward, straight into Csargo’s outstretched Shockstick. The Ninja was paralyzed only for half a second, but it was enough for the Pirate to wind up for another blow. This time it did shatter the Laser Nunchuck’s chain, causing the Ninja to drop one of the ends. A wicked grin crossed the Pirate’s face as he held the hook up to the Ninja’s neck.

“TARGET LOCKED.”

Two torpedoes hurtled towards the Pirate at blistering speed. He acted quickly, firing his Space Musket at them. But he wasn’t quick enough. One of the torpedoes exploded harmlessly 20 yards back, but he missed the other, and it caught him straight in his outstretched left arm, blowing it to bits.

PIRATE VS NINJA VS ROBOT!?!?!?!?

The Robot propelled itself through the liquid ammonia using two fans attached to its feet.

“Yaaarrrgh! Ye blasted bucket o’ bolts! Ye’ve blown off me other arm!”

“YOU ARE QUITE OBSERVANT. IT IS A PITY YOUR OBSERVANCE DOES NOT AT ALL FACTOR INTO YOUR INTELLIGENCE.”

Csargo was pretty bewildered at this point. This was just getting ridiculous. Honestly, he would have been fine with just one of them coming to kill him. That would have been sufficient enough for his ego, to think that one deadly space monster wanted him dead. Now, three of them… he was going to start having delusions of grandeur.

The Ninja was a little confused, too. And kind of angry. The Robot and the Pirate were over there arguing with each other, and he was being left out all of a sudden. He was the one who had come here to kill Csargo. Those other two shouldn’t have spoiled it for him. He would love to kill them both right there, the sad facts were that he had only a broken laser nunchuck and they had a hook and who knows what kind of heat that Robot was packing. He pulled out some new explosive or firearm every time he went out to kill someone. He was outmatched. That brought his blood to a boil.

The Ninja flipped out with all his might, and swung his single nunchuck at the nearest thing he saw. And that thing was Csargo’s face.

The spectacle of cloudy red water mixing with the greenish-tinted ammonia drew the Pirate’s attention.

“What, I walk away for ONE SECOND, and ye’ve already sent him to the Dutchman? Ye have no honor!”

The Ninja was past words. He was just flipping out and screaming, continuing to mash Csargo’s face with the laser nunchuck. He didn’t even look back at the Pirate.

“Hey! I’m talking to ye! Don’t ye ignore me, ye pajama-wearing freebooter!”

The Pirate’s distraction was just enough time for the Robot to fire another salvo of torpedoes at his intended target. With his back turned and both he and the Ninja screaming, he never heard nor saw it coming. This time, it was more than just thefluffyone93’s arm that was blown to smithereens.

The sound of the explosion shocked the Ninja out of his rage, too. He affixed the Robot with a burning, mistrustful glare. The Robot stared back, cold and unrelenting.

The two stood there in a stand-off for a good ten minutes, each ready to strike at a split second’s notice, the Ninja with his reflexes and the Robot with his light-speed circuitry. Then, slowly at first, they lowered their guards and stalked off in opposite directions.

---

The next morning, the Captain did a head count and noticed they were missing two more Cadets.

“I refuse to believe they are dead until we find their bodies. They were good Space Cadets, and I don’t want to abandon them on the chance they’re still alive. For now, we press on, and keep a look out for them.”

Most of the paths near the entrance ended in dead ends. They kept backtracking when necessary, but after an hour or so of searching they came to a large chamber. At the far end was a huge double door. Off towards the right was a staircase leading downwards. And in the center was a large, circular platform. From the way light filtered down from a circular hole through the ceiling above, the Captain assumed it was probably a high-tech elevator.

“We’ll stop here for now. We need to decide our next course of action. We have three paths ahead of us. Which one do we take? I also want to send someone back to the main chamber in the Shuttlemarine to check if either of those two missing Cadets has returned before we press on forward. The auto-pilot has been putting together a map of this place, so there’s little risk of getting lost.”

---

Alive: 17/28
atheotes
BSmith
classical_hero
Choxorn
Double A
dcmort93
edse
Greyblades
Jarema
Major Robert Dump
Montmorency
robbiecon
SalmonSoil
The King
wideyedwanderer
Visorslash
Xehh II


Not Alive: 11/28
Zaccino - Space Cadet - Immortal, but eaten by a Space Whale
autolycus - Space Cadet - Bit off more than he could chew
Askthepizzaguy - Space Cadet - Died in madness having seen the future
Memnon - Zombie - Together he stood, divided he fell
Jolt - Pirate Ninja Robot Zombie - In the Cooler. The Space Cooler.
DaveShack - Space Cadet - Sleeping with the dinosaurs and the sharks
Arjos - Space Cadet - Got ding-dong ditched, extreme edition
Seon - Samurai - Was bested by the Western men and their guns
woad&fangs - Space Cadet - He couldn't change time, but time has changed him
Csargo - Space Cadet - Is popular. Too popular.
thefluffyone93 - Pirate - Is a good chum.

The Space Cadets' Reserve
johnhughthom
Ironside

[Zack]

Die, Double A.

[thefluffyone93]

Well that was chummy.

What, was I too obvious?

[Montmorency]

Incredible.

thefluffyone93

Predictable. I would have voted him today.

Vote: Path 2

Vote: Abstain - not yet.

[dcmort93]

I like 3's so I say we go down path. Also I'm going to abstain for now. If I see an interesting case I might pursue it but for now I'm not feeling scum vibes from anyone in particular