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    Sales tax is probably the best.

    Anyways, Vuk, I'll make this easy for you; believe the CNN article.

    PS - Newsmax? Seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    Sales tax is probably the best.

    Anyways, Vuk, I'll make this easy for you; believe the CNN article.

    PS - Newsmax? Seriously?

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    I googled Obama Estate Tax and they were the first relevant articles that came up.
    Could you give me a reason to trust the CNN article? I doubt Fox would just outright lie about Obama like that, as that would destroy their credibility. My guess is that either Obama had two positions at two different times, and they are picking which to report on, or that the truth lies in some detail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuk View Post
    I doubt Fox would just outright lie about Obama like that, as that would destroy their credibility.
    That ship has already sailed.

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    Tax the bourgeois

    If your Daddy has more than a cool 5 million in the bank, you have already been given plenty of oppurtunties in this life.

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    The estate tax is a stupid argument. The tax has been higher and there is precedent for it, governments are free to tinker with it. My problem is with corporate and income taxes generally. What happens after someone dies who earned millions of dollars or more in life is not my concern. If the government believes that It can tax people after their death than so be it. My concern is with earning wealth and spending money as you see fit in life, not creating dynasties and controlling money after you are dead.

    Death tax is one of the many red herrings in politics that most people, except the wealthiest of the wealthy who have never heard of trusts and giving to others, need not worry themselves about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg View Post
    The estate tax is a stupid argument. The tax has been higher and there is precedent for it, governments are free to tinker with it. My problem is with corporate and income taxes generally. What happens after someone dies who earned millions of dollars or more in life is not my concern. If the government believes that It can tax people after their death than so be it. My concern is with earning wealth and spending money as you see fit in life, not creating dynasties and controlling money after you are dead.

    Death tax is one of the many red herrings in politics that most people, except the wealthiest of the wealthy who have never heard of trusts and giving to others, need not worry themselves about.
    Lately you seem to be only concerned with yourself.

    I realize people are going to devote the majority of their time to causes that affect them directly but you seem to take it to an entierly new level.

    Such base and vapid ethics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Lately you seem to be only concerned with yourself.

    I realize people are going to devote the majority of their time to causes that affect them directly but you seem to take it to an entierly new level.

    Such base and vapid ethics
    Who else is there? I'm all for protecting the wealthiest of the wealthy from the death tax if it keeps them donating cash to the G.O.P.
    I just personally don't care about their issue. Why should I? This whole web of "I care about this issue, this issue, this issue" is such a joke. Find your core, vote on your core and let anybody with a good idea try their core issue as long as it isn't too stupid. If you are running for representative elected office then I understand that you need to get the support of constituencies, but we are arguing on the internet and benefit in no way from having our own planks on ideas that we all must realize that we poorly understand. Leave the strong feelings for people who have strong feelings.

    Vapid and base ethics. I don't believe in political ethics, just regular ethics and regular ethics don't demand that I care about what wealthy people do with their money after they are dead. Take it from them, give it to their kids, smoke it, blow it out of your chode.
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    I doubt Fox would just outright lie about Obama like that, as that would destroy their credibility.
    Oh wow, wow, WOW.

    This statement is....the statement that just perfectly describes you in a nutshell, Vuk.


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    Could you give me a reason to trust the CNN article? I doubt Fox would just outright lie about Obama like that, as that would destroy their credibility. .
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    I seriously doubt anyone on the org would ever be affected by this kind of "Death Tax" as people seem inclined to call it.

    Never ceases to amaze me though how this non-issue keeps coming up every election and of course the Republicans never cease to wave it like a voodoo doll at the people.

    Even with farming familes of which prob over 80% of farms are no more the 500acre in the USA meaning most people will never pay this tax.

    They rile people up with tales of "We had to sell the farm to pay Daddies death taxes boohoo boohoo" the reality is the majority of repub voters will never ever pay this tax.
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    A death tax is awesome.

    Reap the benefits of a lowered tax rate all your life, then pay Uncle Sam back when you have no need of money anymore. A win-win for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    A death tax is awesome.

    Reap the benefits of a lowered tax rate all your life, then pay Uncle Sam back when you have no need of money anymore. A win-win for everyone.
    hmm there is a germ of an idea here Horetore it might encourage people to spend all there money prior to death which would boost vat receipts etc etc.

    Place like Florida would absolutely boom with consumer spending in the local economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy View Post
    hmm there is a germ of an idea here Horetore it would also encourage people to spend all there money just prior to death which boosts vat receipts etc etc.
    I'm not that big on encouraging spending... Enviromentalist reflex, I guess.
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