Small mafia game 'Guess what your role is' (aka 'role insanity') [Concluded]

[Memnon]

Yeah, so it's Zack then? I sent Bsmith's info to you, just to make sure of that edse.

Vote: Zaccino

[Arjos]

Well celebration time at the local pub!
Have a round on me, a toast to that Skitzo of JHT metagaming Visor and Robbie taking one for the team :D

[Zack]

This game was impossible for the mafia. Everyone and their goddamn mother was a cop or some sort of other power role. Role madness sucks.

[Arjos]

Well BSmith was a grave digger and became cop at random out of 3 possible roles...
Skitzo was just extremely lucky :D

Sorta like in the right place, at the right time lol

[Zack]

And the skitzo happened to scan Visorslash, and the monkey kept clearing innocent names while we were busy killing jailkeepers and doctors. And who could forget the tracker watching me kill robbiecon? Or how I had an utterly useless ability?

The odds were heavily stacked against our favor. This game proves why I hate guilty/innocent cops so much. They suck all the fun out.

This game had multiple doctors, multiple roleblockers, multiple cops, etc. against what were essentially three basic mafia. How the hell were we supposed to win?

[Arjos]

Right forgot the monkey clearing a lot XD
As for the tracker, with so few suspects left it was bound to happen...

Anyway yes I don't like scanning abilities much, I got Chaotix, albeit in two rounds, old school :D

So you were really a commuter? lol you guys had such awful roles for mafia, would've been better with only that possible mafia roles ones...

[Chaotix]

Bahahaha I totally thought edse was being serious for a minute there and I was going to pee my pants laughing.

Anyway, well-played. I applaud you for catching me in my web of lies.

The scan on Zaccino, though, that's just brutal. We had a chance, man! A real chance. We were gonna lose anyway, but I'd prefer we go out with a bang. Instead, you guys played it smart and tracked the obvious kill target. No suspense at all there...

Oh, and btw BSmith is the guilty one. Trust me.

[BSmith]

[B/]vote: Zaccino[/B]. Not that I need to at this point. I am indeed a cop, but apparently not a good one. Robbiecon was guilty according to my scan.

[BSmith]

Stupid phone

vote: zaccino

[johnhughthom]

JHT metagaming Visor

[Arjos]

Shall we rephrase it as "preferential pickings" then? XD

[Ishmael]

If it helps Zaccino, I was certain you were a townie.

[johnhughthom]

"preferential pickings"

If it helps Zaccino, I was certain you were a townie.

If it helps Zaccino, at least you didn't throw a Zacktrum when you got wagoned, and lame your way to victory.

[Jarema]

ok
I will end this round earlier, it will not change anything.

Zack was mafia. He was a commuter!

Town victory!

Final player list:
Living:
1. DaveShack
2. Edse
3.
4. BSmith
5.
6. Memnon
7. Arjos
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.

Dead:
Montmorency: town, cop. Lynched day 1.
Nightbringer: town, jailkeeper. Killed night 1.
Visorslash: mafia, informant. Lynched day 2.
The King: town, curious guy. Killed night 2
Atheotes: town, doctor. Killed night 2
Ishmael: town, judge dread. Lynched day 3
johnhughtom: town, skitzo. Killed night 3
Chaotix: mafia, role scanner. Lynched day 4
Robbiecon: town, monkey. Killed night 4
Zaccino: mafia, commuter. Lynched day 5

[Jarema]

It was an experimental game. It does not work exactly as predicted, partially due to Visor's bad luck at the night1.

Also, as an aftertought, night 0 was not needed - it mostly gave town more time to play with roles

[Arjos]

I think the mafiosi getting random town roles, were put in a tough place, ok it makes for a great cover, but they lose all their "attack" power so to speak...

[Jarema]

Mafia qt:
http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/djecBYPrYdsAS

Arjos-made qt:
http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/dta9wcmH7qf

Roles:
1. Visorslash Mafia, informant
2. Chaotix Mafia, role scanner
3. Zaccino Mafia, commuter
4. Memnon Oracle
5. DaveShack Protector
6. Montmorency Cop (insane)
7. Atheotes Doctor
8. Robbiecon Monkey
9. The King Curious guy
10. Ishmael Insane vigilante
11. Classical Hero/johnhughtom Skitzo
12. Nightbringer Jailkeeper
13. Edse Watcher
14. BSmith Grave digger: insane cop
15. Arjos Recruiting neighbour

Night 0 actions:

Town actions:
Arjos tries to use his ability, but fails (you must name your target!)
Classical Hero tries to use his ability, but fails (you must name your target!)
Montmorency tries to use his ability, but fails (you must name your target!)
Memnon tries to use his ability, but fails (you must name both your targets!)
Ishmael tries to use his ability on Nightbringer, but fails (you cannot choose targets for your ability!)
Robbiecon tries to use his ability on Zaccino, but fails (you cannot choose targets for your ability!)
BSmith tries to use his ability on Atheotes, but fails (you cannot choose targets for your ability! too early for using this role!)
Atheotes targets The King, successfully (protects him) “you successfully used your ability”
Daveshack targets The King, successfully (protects him) “you successfully used your ability”


Mafia actions:
Zaccino targets Montmorency, but fails (you cannot choose targets for your ability!)
Visorslash targets Atheotes, successfully. (you successfully used your ability). (Atheotes got this message tonight: “you successfully used your ability”)
Chaotix targets Nightbringer, successfully (you successfully used your ability). (Nightbringer is a jailkeeper)

Night 1 actions:

Town actions:
Ishmael uses his ability. Successfully. Zaccino targeted. “you used your ability. But, something prevented it from working. Like if you were roleblocked, your target was protected, or something like that”.
Edse uses his ability on Ishmael (You used your ability. Ishmael wasn’t visited by anyone.)
Robbiecon uses his ability. Successfully. “you used your ability. Memnon is innocent!”
Arjos uses his ability. Successfully. Zaccino targeted. “you used your ability. But, something prevented it from working. Like if you were roleblocked, your target was protected, or something like that”.
Memnon uses his ability. Successfully. “you did it” (Nightbringer will be informed that classical hero is innocent)
Johnhughtom uses his ability on Visorslash. “you used your ability. Visorslash is guilty!”
The King tries to use his ability on johnhughtom, but fails (you cannot choose targets for your ability!)

Mafia actions:
Zaccino uses his ability. Successfully (he is protected against most actions)
Chaotix investigates Atheotes. Atheotes is a doctor.
Visorslash attacks Nightbringer. Nightbringer is dead.

Night 2 actions:

Town actions:
Edse uses his ability on johnhughtom (he was targeted by Memnon & Atheotes)
Arjos targets Chaotix and creates qt. http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/dta9wcmH7qf
Memnon uses his power. Arjos learns, that johnhughtom is a skitzo.
Robbiecon uses his power. Edse is innocent.
Atheotes uses his ability on jht. JHT protected.
Johnhughtom uses his ability on Arjos. Arjos is protected by him.
Ishmael uses his ability. The King is killed
Daveshack targets Memnon. Memnon is protected.

Mafia actions:
Zaccino attacks Atheotes and kills him.
Chaotix scans Arjos. “Arjos is recruiting neighbour.”

Night 3 actions:

Town actions:
Arjos targets BSmith, and he gets access to qt
Robbiecon uses his ability and learns that DaveShack is innocent
Bsmith uses his ability. He will have to pick 3 roles to randomize from during day
Edse watches Arjos (no one targeted him)
Daveshack targets (protects) Edse

Mafia actions:
Zaccino kills jht
Chaotix scans Zaccino. Zack is a commuter

Night 4 actions:

Town actions:
BSmith scans Robbiecon and learns that he is guilty.
Robbiecon uses his ability and learns that BSmith is innocent
Memnon uses his role on BSmith and Edse. Edse learns that BSmith is a cop
Edse sees that BSmith and Zaccino visited Robbiecon
Arjos recruits Zaccino
Daveshack targets (protects) BSmith

Mafia actions:
Zaccino kills Robbiecon

[Jarema]

ANy discussion would be welcomed, both about game balance (poor, I will say), and about whole concept (is it worht to work on? rebalancing? changing? or just stupid and unnecessary?)

[johnhughthom]

People whining about being scanned night one is getting so tiresome. I DO NOT METAGAME. I RANDOMLY SELECT MY TARGETS. MOANING ZACK HAS SEEN THIS AS HOST OFTEN ENOUGH TO KNOW IT'S TRUE. BEING SCANNED NIGHT ONE IS NOT ALWAYS METAGAMING.

Ahem. Yay, town win. Priority number 7 comes true!

Thanks for the game Jarrrrrrema! Don't worry, balance is always a nuisance. I've never gotten it right...

[Jarema]

MOANING ZACK HAS SEEN THIS AS HOST OFTEN ENOUGH TO KNOW IT'S TRUE. BEING SCANNED NIGHT ONE IS NOT ALWAYS METAGAMING.

He is right about Visor being unlucky... there was 50% chance that you will protect or roleblock him (no real consequenced for him)

[johnhughthom]

He is right about Visor being unlucky... there was 50% chance that you will protect or roleblock him (no real consequenced for him)

Yep, it was unlucky, but there was some moaning about the choice of target. I have spoken out against metagaming many times in the past, and it annoys me to be accused of it.

As for the day 2 wagon started on Zack, from what I remember you claimed to be one of two roles. I checked them and there seemed to be a discrepancy, one of them could only be used on alternate nights or something, why others piled on after me, I have no idea. As alluded to when I said I'd tell you the reason when the bandwagoners told me.

[Jarema]

Yep, it was unlucky, but there was some moaning about the choice of target. I have spoken out against metagaming many times in the past, and it annoys me to be accused of it.

Understandable.

And, tbh, this time Zack do not have reason to complain about it, I suppose (he was chosen as a target once at night 0, once at night 1, zero times at night 2)

[Zack]

Twice on Night One. And I would appreciate if both of you would stop slandering my good name. I never said anything about metagaming.

[johnhughthom]

I'll stop slandering you if you stop pretending you have a good name. I don't believe I did slander you though, did I mention your name? I'm just saying you as part of the mafia team would know I don't metagame. Ya big whinger.

edit: Zaccino is a terrible name.

[Memnon]

Hurray it's a first for me! Both surviving to the end, and actually winning! Good game, bad luck for the mafia though. XD

[johnhughthom]

Hurray for the Flan King!

[Jarema]

Twice on Night One. And I would appreciate if both of you would stop slandering my good name. I never said anything about metagaming.

I will stop. But, one of two at night one was random target (you were not chosen, just randomly selected)

[Visor]

And the skitzo happened to scan Visorslash, and the monkey kept clearing innocent names while we were busy killing jailkeepers and doctors. And who could forget the tracker watching me kill robbiecon? Or how I had an utterly useless ability?

The odds were heavily stacked against our favor. This game proves why I hate guilty/innocent cops so much. They suck all the fun out.

This game had multiple doctors, multiple roleblockers, multiple cops, etc. against what were essentially three basic mafia. How the hell were we supposed to win?

Yeah, we had a tough break. Go check out the death note mafia on twc though, similar story, yet mafia won.

[Chaotix]

Yeah, we had a tough break. Go check out the death note mafia on twc though, similar story, yet mafia won.

Oh no way somebody did a Death Note mafia?

I was just thinking about how that would work as a concept a few days ago. It would be hella fun to host.

Anyway, good game everyone. Especially Monty and Arjos. Arjos was good with the logic games, but Monty's scumdar is so accurate it's scary.

[johnhughthom]

Linky.