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    What are you talking about? Everyone knows what spring and autumn are, they happen before and after summer. Duh. Son Chew? Isn't that my dry cleaner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickinator9 View Post
    I don't really think Atheists like me would be interested. I also think the campaign map area would be far too small.
    Really? Sure, it would be based around an area because some religious people are interested in it but it wouldn't necessarily support any particular religion of the area. Also, while smaller than a lot of maps, it could still cover a decent amount of ground, encompassing parts of Egypt and Assyria.

    Quote Originally Posted by quadalpha View Post
    I don't think religion has ever yet lived up to its potential in the TW series. It usually seems to end up either as an annoyance or ignored.
    What sort of things would you do to make religion live up to its potential?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noncommunist View Post
    Really? Sure, it would be based around an area because some religious people are interested in it but it wouldn't necessarily support any particular religion of the area. Also, while smaller than a lot of maps, it could still cover a decent amount of ground, encompassing parts of Egypt and Assyria.

    What sort of things would you do to make religion live up to its potential?
    - I imagine there would be a bit of a backlash if you market it as being set in 'biblical times'. The US seems to be polarised enough along those lines that CA would lose a non-negligible part of its target market. We also don't seem to know enough, historically, about warfare in the period to make it sufficiently interesting without resorting to fantasy or guesswork (I'm assuming you meant the Old Testament by 'biblical times', since the first century AD would be covered by Rome).

    - About religion in R2: I don't think religion played as much of a role in the period by itself to warrant inclusion as a separate, significant system in the game. It can be profitably integrated with whatever political system they have in place, which would nicely mirror the way religion was largely integrated with politics in Greece and Rome. I don't know enough about religion in the 'barbarian' cultures to comment on that. Looking further afield, religion (in the faith-based, monotheistic sense we usually associate with it) seems to be difficult to incorporate as a game mechanic in the TW series in general. The x% happiness penalty is not really significant enough for the player. In something like Crusader Kings 2, religion can influence which territories you try to acquire, but in TW, where the focus is really on conquering whatever stands in your way, religion doesn't seem to be a significant on that kind of strategic level.

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    Rome 2? I go on vacation for 1 week and I get this? WOOOOOOT!
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    I got into total war through MTW, but RTW inspired my true love for the series. I'm definitely excited and happy to hear the news. Ironically, I heard about it through the Paradox forums, where people were saying there wouldn't be a new Europa Universalis: Rome game out for a while, since CA just announced RTWII!

    Can't wait to see the graphics.
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    MTW1 was the best original one, RTW:EB was the best one in total and MTW2 was also fun. imo NTW was promising but in the end just too narrow to be really entertaining (not much replayability imo) and I didnt get STW2 because NTW dissapointed me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio View Post
    I have to agree with you. After all who in the mainstream has any exposure to Asian martial culture other then Samurai.

    It's not like there are any other country that has anything as iconic, martial or strategic when it comes to war.

    Like China what do they have in mainstream entertainment apart from Jacky Chan comedies, or Hong Kong action cop flicks, or ghost stories, or HK martial art stories, or Bruce Lee, or ancient martial art stories, or Shao Lin monks.

    Like seriously when was the last time you think China and massive warfare. Where in mainstream culture outside of a strategy site would have heard of the three kingdoms, autumn and spring, or the red cliffs or the terracotta soldiers.

    Its not like Chinese martial arts is so main stream that kids movies would be based on them like some sort of Kung Fu Panda thing.

    Or famous generals of like the red faced general or that other one that no one talks about outside of military geeks... like Son Chew or something or rather.

    Nope I confuse all of that all the time with Samurai just like every other Gui Lao.
    this is sarcasm right? it better be XD

    anyway, why not australia and NZ, should be great fun to pick the maori's get on your canoo's and destroy those poor indiginous pacifist australians :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stranger View Post
    this is sarcasm right? it better be XD

    anyway, why not australia and NZ, should be great fun to pick the maori's get on your canoo's and destroy those poor indiginous pacifist australians :D
    Give your sarcasm detector a whack. That usually works

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