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    Don't get your hopes up. Historical accuracy has never been a priority for CA. Gauls and Germans are nothing - I wouldn't be surprised if the Egyptians were depicted in the same way they were depicted in RTW1 and it was simply idiotic...

    If the game is moddable, things like that won't be a big issue, but if it isn't...

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    Nothing will change. EB is a drop in the ocean compared to the number of people who will be buying Rome 2 expecting 'normal' history. CA want their version of gameplay not history dominated stuff.

    I am still reading people in other forums saying they want other games to be more historical and character driven so they can play one of the "3 great roman factions like the julii, scipii and brutii". Hmm, i wonder where they got their 'history' from?
    Its a little sad, but I suspect more of the same from Rome 2.
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    I think the team will watch this with interest, certainly I will, though I cannot speak for others.

    As regards contacting CA - I'm afraid that this game will have been in development since Shogan II was released, if not since Empire, certainly all concepting and research will be done and I don't think it would be fruitful to contact CA again. For one thing, we have already made a strong pitch with EBI which demonstrated that historical accuracy can be accessable and fun. I would be very surprised if some of EB's content isn't reflected in Rome 2, not least because we provided huge amounts of "unit Porn" for them.
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    Yet, if you don't try you cannot know for sure. The release is planned in late 2013, so they still have a lot of work to do. Right now they must still be working on the engine and technical stuff, the units and faction will be done in the last year of development.

    You have nothing to loose with trying and you don't know but i'm pretty sure CA has changed this time : have you seen shogun 2 total war ? Everything was historically accurate, units were extremely accurately detailed as well as factions, even to the point of boringness because they didn't add other factions like mongols (since they never came in japan it would have been inaccurate) and they didn't created fancy units to make factions different. In their last 3 games : Napoleon, shogun 2 and fall of the samurai, they focused a lot on historical accuracy, even winning an award in napoleon from the college of historian.
    Their employees and direction changed in 8 years, so the new team may be more receptive.

    Also don't forget that you (the team) are not the same as 8 year before. You have gained a lot of notability and you have a huge reputation, surely within CA itself.
    You will have way more credibility than 8 year before : this will be the team that made the biggest and very popular mod for rome total war that will advise CA, not just random people like 8 years ago.

    I don't think CA has any interest in depicting them as savage, but they probably didn't really paid attention to the matter and might end up reusing the old set. But if you warn them, they might realize. With your reputation , they will probably consider you as independent expert now because of your reputation, and company tend to hear experts.

    In the end, if nobody tells them, they won't bother to pay attention to the problem if they haven't noticed. But if YOU, europa barbarorum team tells them, there is a good chance that they notice and act accordingly. Also, they can be lazy and maybe they haven't really begin their research work on all faction (they don't really have a lot of historians working for them). So if you provide them with the information about the germans/celts factions and they will probably take it, too happy not to have to research it themselves (so no paying for extra research).
    Considering you reputation, they will see you as independent experts, giving them advice for free and making them win a good amount of time and money.



    In the end I think it's really worth trying again. The odds are not the same as before : CA changed, and YOU changed, you gained a huge lot of reputation and notability and proved, even to CA, that you can be considered as experts.

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    Last edited by wangchang; 07-03-2012 at 15:06.

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