The Castration of Boxing

[Vuk]

Sometimes I wonder if you read what others write at all;


Did I say bodybuilding? Did I say muscle size? No, I said strength training. Strength.

Also, fighters don't do farm labor to gain strength. They work out. In gyms. With weights and other things.

Eh, whatever.

CR

Yes, I read what you wrote CR. My point is that unfortunately, modern athletes believe the best way to gain strength is by adding muscle mass or doing exercises that add muscle mass.
Also, yes, I know fighters don't do farm labor to gain strength. My point was that back when people did a lot more heavy labor from their childhood, they had a better base to build on when they became fighters.

[Strike For The South]

Yes, I read what you wrote CR. My point is that unfortunately, modern athletes believe the best way to gain strength is by adding muscle mass or doing exercises that add muscle mass.
Also, yes, I know fighters don't do farm labor to gain strength. My point was that back when people did a lot more heavy labor from their childhood, they had a better base to build on when they became fighters.

What do you think labor and farmwork build?

Holy balls

[Vuk]

What do you think labor and farmwork build?

Holy balls

Yes, your muscle mass will increase as you get stronger, but strength is a lot more complicated than just that. There are lots of skinny guys out there who can out muscle much bigger guys.

[Strike For The South]

Yes, your muscle mass will increase as you get stronger, but strength is a lot more complicated than just that. There are lots of skinny guys out there who can out muscle much bigger guys.

what does that even mean

[Whacker]

SCIENCE

[Fragony]

what does that even mean

Speed hits harder. A very strong person hits slower, it's closer to pushing than it is to hitting. Think of it in kinetics, the amount of energy delivered.

[Major Robert Dump]

Actually, guys, a lot of today's top MMA fighters do circuit training on America's farms, thanks in part to federal corn subsidies. Amongst the MMA circles, it's called "husking."

[Centurion1]

Speed hits harder. A very strong person hits slower, it's closer to pushing than it is to hitting. Think of it in kinetics, the amount of energy delivered.

After what Vuk said this is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Having taken some physics in my lifetime and having an understanding of how a punch hits and feels I question your ability to comment on this.

Look guys I figured it out. Since Vuk worked on farms he is naturally predisposed to be a superior human being than I am. This is why he was allowed to join the military and I cannot seem to pass my medical examination. He is just stronger, faster, and more of a h2h combat expert (which is a skillset that is of paramount importance on the modern battlefield). Basically because he is a superior specimen of man he is, as i stated before, stronger, faster, and an all around better physical athlete than my frail potentially division 1 body could ever hope to be. More so I should be afraid to ever enter the state of Wisconsin because his equally fit by a long lost secret regimen of farming labor brothers would beat my butt because to them I am nothing but a fly on the wall.

I completely concede my point to vuk in regards to boxing. If only I knew that there were secret methods that could make fighters even better. God only knows why the entire boxing world has regressed in training methods when Billy Bob out on the farm in Iowa is by default the greatest athlete in the America's. So of course I also agree with vuks point that we should switch to bareknuckle boxing. Ignore the fact that a boxing glove hits with more force than 4oz mma gloves or bare fists, thats irrelevant. We need to go back to the days of 6-8 hour boxing matches where two men were too scared of breaking their hands all they did was body shots on each other with the occasional straight jab. Also ignore that they usually ended up breaking their hands which is why men like John Sullivan ended up with severe crippling arthritis in his hands and could barely bend his fingers by the time he was in his fifties. But yeah it would be sick if we could start paying for 6 hour matches where the fighters circle each other forever and rupture each others internal organs. Then we would have the pleasure of seeing someone die on the mat from a ruptured spleen. Then we can start dragging farmboys off pops corn farm and setting them to fight each other once all of those weak azz "professional athletes" die off which should be soon since all they ever do is weak modern workouts. Then to fully perfect the art of boxing we will dissolve any sort of semblance of rules in the ring. This will destroy what was once a stinky good for nothing dance of two artists and create a shuffling lumbering brawl with no regard for finesse or technique. Excuse me this would actually develop "proper combos, effective guards and real defense."

At the end of the day guys the reason that Vuk is in command of Seal Team six is because he used to work on a farm. This made him the killing machine we see before us. Hopefully, one day if I ever encounter his farm trained army of supermen I will be able to run away. BUT WAIT!!!! His body is so hardened by the menial labor he takes an absurd joy in he will easily outpace my sub 4.9 40 yard dash speed all while being +300 pounds. Did I mention that farmwork gave Vuk a physique that grants him a waist size of 32 all while being over 300 pounds. I'm going to get a job on a farm right now so I can hopefully get stronger and faster like the 21st centuries Jim Thrope, Vuk.

You buffon.

[Fragony]

'After what Vuk said this is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Having taken some physics in my lifetime and having an understanding of how a punch hits and feels I question your ability to comment on this. '

When it's so easy? Energy doesn't get lost, with a slow punch most of it goes into moving the mass off the head you are punching, while a speedy punch hits of all the energy that goes into the hit itself.