Good To See Fiscal Conservatism At Work

[Fragony]

Might very well be true, though. His explanation that he wants to free up the money for genuinely ill kids (whereas it remains to be seen if his own kid is actually cured) smells like BS.

Perhaps, but in the end if she goes somebody else can't, the budget is limited. It's no right it's a courtesy in the end, it doesn't count that it would mean a lot for her to be going to Disneyland imho. I would happily donate some money for her but it's not a right.

[rory_20_uk]

Dying kids isn't fun. But if they're terminal, resources are better spent on those who are going to live.

[Fragony]

Dying kids isn't fun. But if they're terminal, resources are better spent on those who are going to live.

So cold, but you all know that Rory is right.

[Hooahguy]

Debatable. Id rather take a kid who was going to die to Disneyland than one who was going to live. The one who is going to live can go later on in life. The one who is going to die cannot. Why have them live their last few years of life in depression? Yeah, both kids are unhappy now, but in the long run, one will have beaten cancer while the other one didnt.

[rory_20_uk]

You don't "beat" cancer. You get over it and live with the constant, very real, fear or either a relapse or the fact the chemo or radiotherapy massively increased your risk of almost every cancer going.

Yes, enjoy one's time and carpe diem, but the phrase "beaten cancer" is to date a misnomer.

I'm not suggesting sending either of them to Disneyworld. How about some immunisations for those without?

[HoreTore]

the fact the chemo or radiotherapy massively increased your risk of almost every cancer going.

What do you mean by this, rory? You're speaking with medical knowledge I don't have, and now I'm curious...

[rory_20_uk]

Most chemotherapy and radiotherapy works on the principle that it damages fast dividing cancer cells quicker than the rest. Hence why people feel nauseous, loose their hair and feel dreadful - fast dividing cells are being killed (hair follicles and the lining of the gut). Radiotherapy is broadly the same. Sure, the targeted area gets most of the radiation, but other tissues gets a fair whack (PET is a lot better, more expensive)

Things are getting a lot better, especially in some areas where treatments are not the older blunderbuss alkylating agents but targeted treatments. but most will still cause damage to all cells in the body which often leads to problems down the line. The younger one is the longer one has for these problems to occur over. Better to die tomorrow than today.

[HoreTore]

Most chemotherapy and radiotherapy works on the principle that it damages fast dividing cancer cells quicker than the rest. Hence why people feel nauseous, loose their hair and feel dreadful - fast dividing cells are being killed (hair follicles and the lining of the gut). Radiotherapy is broadly the same. Sure, the targeted area gets most of the radiation, but other tissues gets a fair whack (PET is a lot better, more expensive)

Things are getting a lot better, especially in some areas where treatments are not the older blunderbuss alkylating agents but targeted treatments. but most will still cause damage to all cells in the body which often leads to problems down the line. The younger one is the longer one has for these problems to occur over. Better to die tomorrow than today.

Thanks, but what kind of problems can it lead to, specifically? New cancer? The same cancer reappearing? All kinds of illnesses?

[Pannonian]

You don't "beat" cancer. You get over it and live with the constant, very real, fear or either a relapse or the fact the chemo or radiotherapy massively increased your risk of almost every cancer going.

Yes, enjoy one's time and carpe diem, but the phrase "beaten cancer" is to date a misnomer.

Eg. Mo Mowlam.

[Kralizec]

Perhaps, but in the end if she goes somebody else can't, the budget is limited. It's no right it's a courtesy in the end, it doesn't count that it would mean a lot for her to be going to Disneyland imho. I would happily donate some money for her but it's not a right.

Debatable. Id rather take a kid who was going to die to Disneyland than one who was going to live. The one who is going to live can go later on in life. The one who is going to die cannot. Why have them live their last few years of life in depression? Yeah, both kids are unhappy now, but in the long run, one will have beaten cancer while the other one didnt.

I don't get it. The guy's excuse doesn't sound plausble to me in the slightest. What kind of person would:
1) deny his own kid a trip to Disneyland after an ordeal like that,
2) against the judgement of the charity in question

I don't see why you're giving this guy the benefit of doubt. I miss the times when the backroom was a collection of judgemental narcissists. You people are soft.

[Major Robert Dump]

I don't get it. The guy's excuse doesn't sound plausble to me in the slightest. What kind of person would:
1) deny his own kid a trip to Disneyland after an ordeal like that,
2) against the judgement of the charity in question

I don't see why you're giving this guy the benefit of doubt. I miss the times when the backroom was a collection of judgemental narcissists. You people are soft.

I'm still judegmental. I don't know that other word, sounds like a flavor of ice cream.

[Papewaio]

Narcissist flavoured ice cream. Salty with ammonia notes.

[Fragony]

I don't get it. The guy's excuse doesn't sound plausble to me in the slightest. What kind of person would:
1) deny his own kid a trip to Disneyland after an ordeal like that,
2) against the judgement of the charity in question

I don't see why you're giving this guy the benefit of doubt. I miss the times when the backroom was a collection of judgemental narcissists. You people are soft.

I give him the benifit of the doubt because I don't expect anyone to be happy with a child that has cancer

[gaelic cowboy]

Dying kids isn't fun. But if they're terminal, resources are better spent on those who are going to live.

I was under the impression Make a Wish was not a charity that performs any medical intervention.


Bascially I have no reservation in saying this dad piece of human slime is a compete jerk who is obviously just attacking his ex out of spite. I seriousl doubt he will uphold these fiscal principles for himself or his new family one day if it was required.

[Fragony]

I was under the impression Make a Wish was not a charity that performs any medical intervention.


Bascially I have no reservation in saying this dad piece of human slime is a compete jerk who is obviously just attacking his ex out of spite. I seriousl doubt he will uphold these fiscal principles for himself or his new family one day if it was required.

You can't know that unless you hear it from him personally, why draw any conclusions when the subject matter is so delicate. If you are wrong it is a very offensive assumptiom to be making considering the circumstances.

[gaelic cowboy]

You can't know that unless you hear it from him personally, why draw any conclusions when the subject matter is so delicate. If you are wrong it is a very offensive assumptiom to be making considering the circumstances.

Careful there FRAG you may get that statememt read back to you in an "It's de Muzlims Thread"

[Fragony]

Careful there FRAG you may get that statememt read back to you in an "It's de Muzlims Thread"

With good reason if there is any