Irony in a Chicken Sandwich

[PanzerJaeger]

It has been three days now, and I still cannot open any of my favorite news aggregators and not read about the Great Chick Fil A Eat for Traditional Marriage rallies across the country. I told myself I would not buy into it, but alas... a thought came to me that I wanted to express.

The rallies did not come about because Mr. Cathy stated that this generation is shaking its fist at the lord and inviting his wrath for changing the definition of marriage. Nor was the genesis the gay activist's backlash against his statements. No, the rallies were the result of a couple of liberal, big city mayors trying to pander to gay people by saying (with absolutely no legal backing) that Chick Fil A was not welcome in 'their' cities.

That was what pissed the Christians off. It was then that Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum, and all the other holy rollers decided to act. Since then, the language of persecution has been as thick as that delicious, atrociously unhealthy Chick Fil A honey BBQ sauce. How dare someone try to exclude them, their lifestyle, and their beliefs!

I just want to say to these people, and this is obviously rhetorical, what the flying hell do you think gay people have been fighting for, and what have you been voting against consistently year after year.....? Inclusion.

I get that the Christians don’t like the gays. That’s fine. It’s the victimhood that is so nauseating. They say the most heinous things about people with an unchosen preference, but are themselves incredibly sensitive toward the idea that anyone might not like them because of their chosen beliefs. Welcome to the world you've created for gay people for centuries.

How someone can go to the polls and vote to exclude people from enjoying a privilege that they enjoy and then bitch about the mere idea, however implausible, of Christians being excluded from something is beyond me.

I feel better.

[Strike For The South]

I support gay marriage only on the condition it is FABULOUS.

Also, I'm to drunk, to taste this chicken

[Fragony]

I can understand why they are pissed off, it's totally ok to be against gay marriage you are not required to be pro. If someone sabotages your business efforts because you take a stance on something goes way too far. If someone is against it you should just respect that and let them do their thing. Nobody is getting hurt so what's the problem really.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I just want to say to these people, and this is obviously rhetorical, what the flying fuck do you think gay people have been fighting for, and what have you been voting against consistently year after year.....? Inclusion.

You can't fight for inclusion. Inclusion comes from acceptance and acceptance comes on an individual, personal level. The politcal arena is not the place for that process, and in this case the people showing that they want to use the political arena have a terrible excuse for sense of sexual morality.

The fact is that christianity is virtually excluded from intellectual circles, and if the intellectual circles can decide social issues through top down legislation, the writing is on the wall. They aren't reacting with this amount of passion out of gay-hatred, but because of the big picture.

You don't think the protests over the trayvon shooting were just about the incident do you?

[a completely inoffensive name]

The fact is that christianity is virtually excluded from intellectual circles, and if the intellectual circles can decide social issues through top down legislation, the writing is on the wall. They aren't reacting with this amount of passion out of gay-hatred, but because of the big picture.

The intellectual circles don't decide social issues through top down legislation most of the time. Also, just because the intellectuals exclude Christianity, doesn't make them anti-religion. The "ivory tower" people for the most part advocate for secularism in the sense of a neutrality towards religion. New Atheism is just a fad among youth that need something to rile them up but don't like the various burdens that religious institutions bring.

[rory_20_uk]

Christianity in most forms is anti-gay. The Bible is pretty clear and the Catholics even have their direct supposed link to God who has never done anything to state the Bible needs a re-write.

Religion is based on belief which neither has to make sense, nor be PC.

[ICantSpellDawg]

I don't care about persecuting people for their beliefs. I just don't want the government to do it. City governments saying that they would ban businesses or individuals who run businesses based on the things that they say is unconstitutional and runs against the fundamentals of our democracy and rights. I don't care about the sit ins and boycotts - as far as im concerned individuals have the right to persecute others all they'd like, as long as their actions don't break the law. I am a Christian, many people think my beliefs are stupid, but I believe that we are imbued with a sense of right and wrong as well as a connection with God from birth. You might be gay and many people think that your beliefs are stupid - that you were imbued with an attraction to people of the same gender... from birth. I view the homosexual movement like communism, federalism, capitalism, punk rock, etc. It is just another movement based on people's personal beliefs, most of which are stupid. I also happen to believe that homosexual people are misguided, but that they shouldn't be punished in law for who they diddle on their own time or what they say.

[Fragony]

I agree with just about everything you say, but one thing. Homosexual people are not misguided, there is no guide, stupid word that 'misguided' as there is no such thing. For heterosexual persons such as us it is probably very strange that people can be attracted to the same sex or even disgusted by it but that's our problem, not theirs. We should just grow up, not them.

[PanzerJaeger]

You can't fight for inclusion. Inclusion comes from acceptance and acceptance comes on an individual, personal level. The politcal arena is not the place for that process, and in this case the people showing that they want to use the political arena have a terrible excuse for sense of sexual morality.

You can, and many groups who have shared common characteristics and been socially disenfranchised for it have done so.

The fact is that christianity is virtually excluded from intellectual circles,

Why do you think that is?

and if the intellectual circles can decide social issues through top down legislation, the writing is on the wall.

Obviously that isn't going on.

They aren't reacting with this amount of passion out of gay-hatred, but because of the big picture.

You don't think the protests over the trayvon shooting were just about the incident do you?

What is the big picture, apart from a bunch of Christians being persecuted by the gay agenda, getting mad as hell, and deciding they just aren't going to take it anymore? I kind of thought I nailed it in the irony of Christians throwing a hissy fit over the mere idea that they would be excluded, while actively making every effort they can to ensure that gay people are. But I was tired, so maybe I missed it.

The Trayvon protests were just as misguided as these, but they were based in actual feelings of social inequity that had some basis in reality. I cannot imagine a group less persecuted than white Christians, and yet the victim complex seems to be ever growing. What is the bigger picture that I'm missing?

[Major Robert Dump]

I don't have aproblem with a company head making these statements, as long as his company is not outwardly discriminiating against customers and employees, although I would think it would make a hostile work environment for employees and pave the way for lawsuits. The market will punish this guy, more quickly were it a publicly traded company. This President has shown some true lackluster business skill, especially considering all the pro-emplyee measures the company has taken and being one of the better fast food places to work. To have all that going and throw it away.....

I don't have a problem with people protesting, even though they are using a highly pussified version of what it means to be a hate group, typical of the lefts highly pussified version of what it means to be a racist or a sexist. And even though there is a total contradiction with the left calling people bigots for protesting mosques, when Islam calls for the execution of gay people

I don't have a problem with the left focusing on things like Chic Fil A, while outright ignoring the rash of violent hate crimes in Washington DC, presumably because that raises issues the left does not like to confront: bigotry by minority groups, the presses omition of the race of suspects in crime stories, the fact that a staggering percentage of blacks and latinos are anti-homosexual, and the anger the black community feels with the homosexual "civil rights" movement is compared to that of black
americans.

I don't have a problem with politicians being politicians, and speaking out against a company even though they can have no real effect on the companies decision to locat there, even though it is not their place as mayor to keep commerce out, and even though the mere idea that a Chicago mayor would say Chic Fil A values are not Chicago values is an EFFING LAUGH RIOT considering the atrocious crime rate, poverty rate, and unemployment rate in that city.

What I do have a problem with is this retard, going through a drive thru and berating a teenage girl for where she works. Is this what counts as activism these days?

http://www.businessinsider.com/vante...-for-it-2012-8

[ICantSpellDawg]

I don't have aproblem with a company head making these statements, as long as his company is not outwardly discriminiating against customers and employees, although I would think it would make a hostile work environment for employees and pave the way for lawsuits. The market will punish this guy, more quickly were it a publicly traded company. This President has shown some true lackluster business skill, especially considering all the pro-emplyee measures the company has taken and being one of the better fast food places to work. To have all that going and throw it away.....

I don't have a problem with people protesting, even though they are using a highly pussified version of what it means to be a hate group, typical of the lefts highly pussified version of what it means to be a racist or a sexist. And even though there is a total contradiction with the left calling people bigots for protesting mosques, when Islam calls for the execution of gay people

I don't have a problem with the left focusing on things like Chic Fil A, while outright ignoring the rash of violent hate crimes in Washington DC, presumably because that raises issues the left does not like to confront: bigotry by minority groups, the presses omition of the race of suspects in crime stories, the fact that a staggering percentage of blacks and latinos are anti-homosexual, and the anger the black community feels with the homosexual "civil rights" movement is compared to that of black
americans.

I don't have a problem with politicians being politicians, and speaking out against a company even though they can have no real effect on the companies decision to locat there, even though it is not their place as mayor to keep commerce out, and even though the mere idea that a Chicago mayor would say Chic Fil A values are not Chicago values is an EFFING LAUGH RIOT considering the atrocious crime rate, poverty rate, and unemployment rate in that city.

What I do have a problem with is this retard, going through a drive thru and berating a teenage girl for where she works. Is this what counts as activism these days?

http://www.businessinsider.com/vante...-for-it-2012-8

Excellent points

[Lemur]

What I do have a problem with is this retard, going through a drive thru and berating a teenage girl for where she works. Is this what counts as activism these days?

According to a few different sources, that dude got himself fired. And deservedly so.

[ICantSpellDawg]

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