9/11 missing links and 7/7 ripple effect

[truth1337]

If you are like I was, you probably only heard "what conspiracy nutters think" through how mainstream media described their theories, usually through strawmen and ridicule. I was very sceptical to such theories, until I by accident and no little persuation from others who had waken up before me ended up watching a few conspiracy movies to hear what the truth movement themselves were saying, and it was very different from the views presented by the mainstream media. Indeed, how many of those who ridicule conspiracy theories have listened to the own words own the truth movement?

This thread is to discuss these two movies:
9/11 missing links: http://www.911missinglinks.com/watch-movie/
7/7 ripple effect: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...95263359807776

Please watch the whole movies before commenting!

[Sasaki Kojiro]

truth1337, I was like you once. But it's deeper than you think. The "non-mainstream" theories in those videos are anything but. Think about it, if you hatched a conspiracy, wouldn't you follow it up with fake "conspiracy theory" videos to throw those smart enough to be skeptical of the mainstream media story off your scent?

[truth1337]

truth1337, I was like you once. But it's deeper than you think. The "non-mainstream" theories in those videos are anything but. Think about it, if you hatched a conspiracy, wouldn't you follow it up with fake "conspiracy theory" videos to throw those smart enough to be skeptical of the mainstream media story off your scent?

That fake conspiracy theory would be the one shown in "Zeitgeist", or the ones by David Icke, or the guys that prove media videos of 9/11 edited in the planes, but claim it isn't merely proof of media editing, but also that there were no planes (there is no proof that there were no planes).

I'm glad you're sceptic to both mainstream media and conspiracy theories! That, and listening to both sides, is the basis for a meaningful discussion. The next step is to discuss the actual proofs given by the different parties, and discuss what actually happened.

[CountArach]

Is the US government really competent enough to orchestrate a conspiracy on this scale?

[truth1337]

Is the US government really competent enough to orchestrate a conspiracy on this scale?

Many people would say they failed miserably, given how many mistakes they made, so the answer is no.

[CountArach]

Many people would say they failed miserably, given how many mistakes they made, so the answer is no.

Mistakes which have only been discovered by stoners sitting on their computers at home mulling over video of a tragedy in a not-at-all-psychopathic way in order to affirm a belief that they know, somewhere deep inside them, that this world is rigged against them and there must be someone to blame.

Sounds plausible.

[Moros]

That fake conspiracy theory would be the one shown in "Zeitgeist".

~ That's what I've been thinking as well. Sadly it worked as well.

[Fragony]

It's a load of crap, we had demolition experts peal apart the images and they all agree that buildings can't be blown up up that way. You start with blowing up the lower levels and let the weight do the work. These towers shouldn't have collapsed in theory, but it was absolutely not controlled demolition as some think.

[truth1337]

It's a load of crap, we had demolition experts peal apart the images and they all agree that buildings can't be blown up up that way. You start with blowing up the lower levels and let the weight do the work. These towers shouldn't have collapsed in theory, but it was absolutely not controlled demolition as some think.

How many engineers support the official view, and how many engineers are against it?