9/11 missing links and 7/7 ripple effect

[truth1337]

If you are like I was, you probably only heard "what conspiracy nutters think" through how mainstream media described their theories, usually through strawmen and ridicule. I was very sceptical to such theories, until I by accident and no little persuation from others who had waken up before me ended up watching a few conspiracy movies to hear what the truth movement themselves were saying, and it was very different from the views presented by the mainstream media. Indeed, how many of those who ridicule conspiracy theories have listened to the own words own the truth movement?

This thread is to discuss these two movies:
9/11 missing links: http://www.911missinglinks.com/watch-movie/
7/7 ripple effect: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...95263359807776

Please watch the whole movies before commenting!

[Sasaki Kojiro]

truth1337, I was like you once. But it's deeper than you think. The "non-mainstream" theories in those videos are anything but. Think about it, if you hatched a conspiracy, wouldn't you follow it up with fake "conspiracy theory" videos to throw those smart enough to be skeptical of the mainstream media story off your scent?

[truth1337]

truth1337, I was like you once. But it's deeper than you think. The "non-mainstream" theories in those videos are anything but. Think about it, if you hatched a conspiracy, wouldn't you follow it up with fake "conspiracy theory" videos to throw those smart enough to be skeptical of the mainstream media story off your scent?

That fake conspiracy theory would be the one shown in "Zeitgeist", or the ones by David Icke, or the guys that prove media videos of 9/11 edited in the planes, but claim it isn't merely proof of media editing, but also that there were no planes (there is no proof that there were no planes).

I'm glad you're sceptic to both mainstream media and conspiracy theories! That, and listening to both sides, is the basis for a meaningful discussion. The next step is to discuss the actual proofs given by the different parties, and discuss what actually happened.

[CountArach]

Is the US government really competent enough to orchestrate a conspiracy on this scale?

[truth1337]

Is the US government really competent enough to orchestrate a conspiracy on this scale?

Many people would say they failed miserably, given how many mistakes they made, so the answer is no.

[CountArach]

Many people would say they failed miserably, given how many mistakes they made, so the answer is no.

Mistakes which have only been discovered by stoners sitting on their computers at home mulling over video of a tragedy in a not-at-all-psychopathic way in order to affirm a belief that they know, somewhere deep inside them, that this world is rigged against them and there must be someone to blame.

Sounds plausible.

[Fragony]

Mistakes which have only been discovered by stoners sitting on their computers at home mulling over video of a tragedy in a not-at-all-psychopathic way in order to affirm a belief that they know, somewhere deep inside them, that this world is rigged against them and there must be someone to blame.

Sounds plausible.

Since when are you packed with a sense of humour

[truth1337]

stoners sitting on their computers

And all the CIA agents who were thanked in the beginning of 9/11 missing links, and all the people who answered questions over phone, within all the different organizations that held crucial information. And all the 3000 engineers who actively stood up against the official fairy tale about 9/11. The remaining engineers don't stand up for the official fairy tale, but are silent.

Why do you attempt to character assassinate the people involved in the work for finding out the truth about 9/11 and 7/7? Do you support the Federal Reserve bankers and the mainstream massmedia and what they're doing?

[Montmorency]

And all the 3000 engineers who actively stood up against the official fairy tale about 9/11.

Who have no experience with the construction of buildings, right?

The remaining engineers don't stand up for the official fairy tale, but are silent.

I'm glad you can speak for these hundreds of thousands of individuals.

[truth1337]

<incoherent babbling by Montmorency>

What are you at?

[Montmorency]

What am I on? Marijuana, of course. It is my one and only deity.

[Moros]

That fake conspiracy theory would be the one shown in "Zeitgeist".

~ That's what I've been thinking as well. Sadly it worked as well.

[Fragony]

It's a load of crap, we had demolition experts peal apart the images and they all agree that buildings can't be blown up up that way. You start with blowing up the lower levels and let the weight do the work. These towers shouldn't have collapsed in theory, but it was absolutely not controlled demolition as some think.

[a completely inoffensive name]

What am I on? Marijuana, of course. It is my one and only deity.

You ******* contrarian. Get a job and find satisfaction in your work.

[truth1337]

It's a load of crap, we had demolition experts peal apart the images and they all agree that buildings can't be blown up up that way. You start with blowing up the lower levels and let the weight do the work. These towers shouldn't have collapsed in theory, but it was absolutely not controlled demolition as some think.

How many engineers support the official view, and how many engineers are against it?

[Hooahguy]

How many engineers support the official view, and how many engineers are against it?

Well most people arent idiots like you so why would one need to go out and support something which is proven fact? A sense of self-satisfaction?

Im finding your username an insult, honestly.

[Fragony]

How many engineers support the official view, and how many engineers are against it?

They think the buildings collapsed because of overheating in the elevator shafts, they aren't 100 % sure of that but sure enough. What they are all sure about though is that it wasn't blown up, it doesn't work like that. It looks like that because the air between floors gets pushed out but if they drop down on eachother, but that are no explosives

[HoreTore]

Seriously guys.

I leave for ten days, and in the meantime the backroom is taken over by a conspiratorial neo-nazi.

Seriously you guys. You racka disiprine.

[Kralizec]

I leave for ten days, and in the meantime the backroom is taken over by a conspiratorial neo-nazi.

What an amazing coincidence. Suspicious, one might even say

[rvg]

What an amazing coincidence. Suspicious, one might even say

Yeah, Horetore, if that's your real name *cough* truth1337 *cough* *cough*.

[Fragony]

Seriously guys.

I leave for ten days, and in the meantime the backroom is taken over by a conspiratorial neo-nazi.

Seriously you guys. You racka disiprine.

But how was your holiday

[HoreTore]

What an amazing coincidence. Suspicious, one might even say

Yeah, Horetore, if that's your real name *cough* truth1337 *cough* *cough*.

But how was your holiday

I'm not on holiday, I'm working....

[LeftEyeNine]

Seriously guys.

I leave for ten days, and in the meantime the backroom is taken over by a conspiratorial neo-nazi.

Seriously you guys. You racka disiprine.

HurrTurr pls

[Ronin]

there are pictures of Cheney standing next to tower 7 with an ACME plunger box.....
I HAVE THE DOCUMENTS!

[Major Robert Dump]

Hi can we get more talk of Ripple? I love Ripple. This one time I drank 3 liters of Ripple with some guys I met on Craigslist and I woke up the next morning in a laundrymat wearing a McDonalds uniform.

[drone]

I leave for ten days, and in the meantime the backroom is taken over by a conspiratorial neo-nazi.

As the resident communist, you would have had a blast. The Red Wave is apparently just around the corner.

[Fragony]

HurrTurr pls

Oh lollipop that's so cute

[Lemur]

Hi can we get more talk of Ripple? I love Ripple. This one time I drank 3 liters of Ripple with some guys I met on Craigslist and I woke up the next morning in a laundrymat wearing a McDonalds uniform.

Ripple gets decent reviews on BumWine, but let's not forget NightTrain and Thunderbird.

[Major Robert Dump]

Holy cow that looks like the ice chest from 6th grade graduation party!!

[drone]