Graduation Gift. Beretta Px4 Storm & 200 Winchester full metal jacket rounds

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I know the logic, I know the reasoning. I didn't say that I disagree with them all the time, or even most of the time. I simply said that I can conceive of times when it would be possible to wing someone, even if rare, rather than go for a kill. I have never had to shoot someone, and I am not saying that I am 100% sure I am right, but that is my opinion. If the opportunitty did present itself (and I am pretty good at knowing my limitations), and I could hit off-center to lower the chance of killing without significantly endangering myself or someone else, I would try. If they didn't stop, the next would be to kill.
I may be wrong, maybe it would happen too fast, I would fall onto instinct and just have enough time for the kill shot. I can't say for 100% sure, but if such an opportunity did present itself, and I was sure I could hit with a wing shot, I would at least try.

My point is that I don't think you'd realistically get that opportunity, and looking for it will get you killed.

Sucks about your vision. I suffer from Myopia as well, but with my glasses, I can see pretty decent out to 400m, so it is not that big of a deal. Without them, my vision starts degrading past 15-20m. My whole family actually suffers from it except my two youngest brothers. (yet)
I take it that progressive myopia means glasses don't help a lot? That must really suck.

It means, I need new glasses every few years since the age of twelve, which means my most recent glasses don't keep up with my eyes - hence the need for a scope.

[Vuk]

My point is that I don't think you'd realistically get that opportunity, and looking for it will get you killed.



It means, I need new glasses every few years since the age of twelve, which means my most recent glasses don't keep up with my eyes - hence the need for a scope.

Ah, I've only needed to get a stronger pair of lenses twice. Guess I am lucky. I remember my dad's used to be ridiculously thick, but mine are not that bad.

You may be right that such an opportunitty would not present itself, but I would not be looking for one. If one was there, I would take it, if not, I would shoot to kill. I can't imagine you would get the luxury of thinking much in such a situation.

[Major Robert Dump]

If the situation justifies you shoot your way out of it, then the situation justifies shooting to kill.

"Winging" someone is a really good way to get sued.

[Fragony]

Just curious, what handgun does the military use and why?

[Kralizec]

The USA uses the Beretta 92 IIRC.

If I were to ever get a gun it would be a (copy of) their previous handgun, the M1911. Just because having the same kind of gun used by American troops in WW1, WW2 and the Vietnam war is pretty cool. And my interest in guns largely stops after the "coolness" factor.

[Major Robert Dump]

Just curious, what handgun does the military use and why?

Right now the standard sidearm for the combat zone US Army is the M9 (Beretta), aka the 92 . Obviously, MPs and SF may have different options due to mission requirements. Cannot speak for the other branches.

15 round magazine and incredibly dependable in foul conditions. However, it is also rather heavy for a pop gun and pretty inaccurate past about 30 meters. This is not due to some scientific study on my part, just first hand experience.

[Major Robert Dump]

As a Tanker, we got issued Berettas even when we were in an Infantry role and they were some of the worst peices of junk i've ever seen--worse than the ones they used in Basic. The one I had in Iraq had an inoperative safety and a barrel that was years over-due for a refit. Wasn't good for anything but carrying to the porta-john at night in your boxers so you didn't have to lug your rifle.

That's sucks to hear.

And mine saved my life.

I saw some pretty ratty M9s being carried out there, looked like they were in the first batch from 85, discolored, rattling etc. Ours were all brand new. Had a couple of good 92s on my team.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I can use the main gun on a Challenger II MBT - I'm not very good though, I found the laser rangefinder too fiddly.

How cool does that make me.