Graduation Gift. Beretta Px4 Storm & 200 Winchester full metal jacket rounds

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I can use the main gun on a Challenger II MBT - I'm not very good though, I found the laser rangefinder too fiddly.

How cool does that make me.

[Vladimir]

I can use the main gun on a Challenger II MBT - I'm not very good though, I found the laser rangefinder too fiddly.

How cool does that make me.

Almost as cool as Richard Hammond.

[Fragony]

What is your guys opnion on this one http://www.google.nl/search?num=10&h...ac.weqzsC3P_pg

It's going to replace the guns our special forces are using, they are supposed to cost a fortune is it any good or is it a waste of money?

[Vladimir]

Don't know anything about it other than it's an HK, so I wholeheartedly support it.

[Fragony]

It can shoot underwater. I am sure it's a great rifle but the regular army isn't happy because they get budget cuts.

[Vladimir]

Budget cuts? It can shoot under water. You shoot an M-16 under water and it will blow up.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Budget cuts? It can shoot under water. You shoot an M-16 under water and it will blow up.

No it won't, it will just jam - water will enter the gas parts, preventing them from forcing the bolt block to the rear and the rifle will simple fail to fire. An AK47, which uses direct recoil action to force the bolt to the rear, will fire underwater.

So, big wup.

[PanzerJaeger]

What is your guys opnion on this one http://www.google.nl/search?num=10&h...ac.weqzsC3P_pg

It's going to replace the guns our special forces are using, they are supposed to cost a fortune is it any good or is it a waste of money?

Eh, it's just an AR with a piston - which theoretically gives it far more reliability than a direct impingement AR. However, anecdotal evidence seems to suggest that the guns H&K enters in competitions are of a different quality than the guns H&K delivers to customers once they have secured contracts, as many failures have been reported. It is impossible to judge the authenticity of internet static, of course. What is more certain is that it is very heavy and not as modular as some other choices.

That being said, it is a quality weapon on paper with a strong operational record and heavy adoption among first world special forces.

If I had the budget to buy a third gen assault rifle, though, I would probably go for one built from the ground up around a piston system like the SCAR instead of an old system with a piston stuffed in it. Many believe that working within the AR framework led to a lot of compromises. Whereas guns like the SCAR and ARX160 are truly next gen, the 416 is somewhere in the middle.