This is why I think Zionism in its current form is so dangerous

[Hooahguy]

NY Times article

JERUSALEM — Seven Israeli teenagers were in custody on Monday, accused of what a police official and several witnesses described as an attempted lynching of several Palestinian youths, laying bare the undercurrent of tension in this ethnically mixed but politically divided city. A 15-year-old suspect standing outside court said, “For my part he can die, he’s an Arab.”

The police said that scores of Jewish youths were involved in the attack late Thursday in West Jerusalem’s Zion Square, leaving one 17-year-old unconscious and hospitalized. Hundreds of bystanders watched the mob beating, the police said — and no one intervened.

Two of the suspects were girls, the youngest 13, adding to the soul-searching and acknowledgment that the poisoned political environment around the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has affected the moral compass of youths growing up within it.

“If it was up to me, I’d have murdered him,” the 15-year-old suspect told reporters outside court on Monday. “He cursed my mother.” The young man who was beaten unconscious, Jamal Julani, remained in the hospital.

Unfortunately this seems to be the standard thinking among my fellow Jews, and there doesnt seem to be much in the way of trying to remedy this extremism within the Jewish community, both in the US and in Israel, which is why I believe Israel will rot from within in the next 50 years until it is a rotting shell of what it used to be.

[rvg]

Unfortunately this seems to be the standard thinking among my fellow Jews, and there doesnt seem to be much in the way of trying to remedy this extremism within the Jewish community, both in the US and in Israel, which is why I believe Israel will rot from within in the next 50 years until it is a rotting shell of what it used to be.

The problem will persist for as long as the Israeli government keeps footing the bill for the officially sanctioned parasites. Yes, I'm talking about the guys in funny black hats who spend their lifetimes deliberating on the most pious way to tie one's own shoes, contribute nothing (well, nothing good) to the society at large and breed like rabbits putting even further strain on the remainder of the Israeli society. They're about to hit what, about 10% mark, no? Cut off the gravy train to those guys, so that they actually have to work for a living, and the extremist problem will subside.

[Hooahguy]

The problem will persist for as long as the Israeli government keeps footing the bill for the officially sanctioned parasites. Yes, I'm talking about the guys in funny black hats who spend their lifetimes deliberating on the most pious way to tie one's own shoes, contribute nothing (well, nothing good) to the society at large and breed like rabbits putting even further strain on the remainder of the Israeli society. They're about to hit what, about 10% mark, no? Cut off the gravy train to those guys, so that they actually have to work for a living, and the extremist problem will subside.

1) They are actually ending the Tal Law, which is the exemption that the Haredim (the dudes in the funny black hats) get from the army. Whether it will do any good is up for debate.

2) The perpetrators in this incident were not Haredi, judging by the photos.

The problem is, Herdim are breeding at a much faster rate than normal Israelis. Plus, new immigrants, which there are a large number of, are coming to Israel with the idea that Israel is for the Jews and no one else. Its much more prevalent than one might believe.

Those two factors combined spells bad news for Israel.

[HoreTore]

Nationalism above a certain treshold is always going to be dangerous.

Still, IMO if there is ever going to be peace in Israel, these guys have to negotiate it. There's no sense in negotiations between moderate Israelis and moderate Palestinians; they're not the ones who are fighting anyway.

If there is to be peace, we need an agreement between the guys in the OP and Hamas.

[Fragony]

Seems to be like Israel is changing, and not for the better.

[classical_hero]

What you are describing here is not Zionism.