When Can We Start Breaking Things?

[Fragony]

Every job doesn't stem from wall street. People have harvested coffee, refined coffee, sold coffee and bought coffee long before there was a wall street.

They still do, we call it the 'real economy' here, what people actually buy and move. I am not all that worried about that undercurrent ever failing.

[a completely inoffensive name]

They still do, we call it the 'real economy' here, what people actually buy and move. I am not all that worried about that undercurrent ever failing.

But it is failing, right now. Because people's savings are lost by speculators.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

But it is failing, right now. Because people's savings are lost by speculators.

This is possibly your most perceptive point ever.

[a completely inoffensive name]

This is possibly your most perceptive point ever.

Thank you. Hopefully I will make more like it in the future.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Thank you. Hopefully I will make more like it in the future.

I should quit while you're ahead - but then I didn't, I'm pretty sure I've entered a terminal decline where the things I say become ever more strident, outlandish and unreasonable.

But maybe not, so I keep posting.

[Montmorency]

What does each make of the resurgence of old-school Calvinism in the American South, in the context of these several threads?

[Strike For The South]

What does each make of the resurgence of old-school Calvinism in the American South, in the context of these several threads?

It's not surprising. When the economy is good and you're the hyper-power, Joel Osteen squares with your world view. When everything goes tits up, it's comforting knowing you had no control.

I have always felt American protestants eschew traditional charity championed by the vicar of Rome (in theory) in favor of this bastardization of the just world theory.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

What does each make of the resurgence of old-school Calvinism in the American South, in the context of these several threads?

As a Wesleyan I dislike Calvin intensely, I think John Hooker had the right of it and I refuse to countenance Calvin's doctrine of preordained damnation.

HOWEVER, the rest is most welcome provided the theology is taught properly AND pre-Reformation theologians like Augustine are taught also, along with men like Luther, Tynedale, Wyclif, Crammer...

What is not acceptable is to teach "Christianity according to Calvin" any more than to teach Roman orthodoxy.

[gaelic cowboy]

They still do, we call it the 'real economy' here, what people actually buy and move. I am not all that worried about that undercurrent ever failing.

That's not been true for a long while now 80% of Dutch workforce is employed in the service sector and apparently 70% of your countries GDP is generated by same.

Economic equality is a fallacy and the pursuit of such a notion is and will always be a disastrous folly.

Apparently inequality breeds nothing but who cry to the government when there stock exchange lotto ticket doesn't pan out.

Apparently MORE inequality is needed because spending money on health and education was what caused bankers to lose the run of themselves.

Policies that permit continuously increasing economic inequality are business-unfriendly. Some correction is necessary for a stable society.

Exactly the Wall Street morons can make there profits because in Europe and the USA contracts are protected by law and people abide by them and use the to resolve disputes.

Lets see how well they do trying to leverage mortgage backed securities in Somalia before we call them the creative classes.

To me the creative class are the painters, musicians and writers. But to each his own I guess.

Indeed