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    Default Re: Sometimes I have to admire France.

    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    I don't care who they are - Romas or Hedge Fund Managers. With such clear breaches of the law, matters should be sorted out quickly without the need for years in the courts.

    You may not care but gutmensch does, they are afraid to act because that wouldn't make them 100% OK, Roma's are on the feelgood-list

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    How do you spell "car" in the UK?

    Wait...A good social welfare system attracts deadbeats?! How can this be?
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    We have similar problems with such camps in the Neth's. The number and sorts of crime they engage in are legion. Tax inspectors, or any public official for that matter, are often afraid (with good reason) to enter such camps without ample police protection. A couple of years ago it emerged that the tax agency had a long standing deal with some of these camps where they would just buy off all their tax duties with a lump sum; lower than what the inhabitants would presumably owe in taxes, but it made financial sense because of obvious reasons - the effort needed to get them to pay their due outweighed the benefits. Needless to say the general public was appalled when this emerged.

    AFAIK these camps are mostly white trash of 100% Dutch origin though. Roma families do cause trouble but in most reported cases they seem to be using publicly funded housing; I don't actually know wether Roma in the Netherlands tend live in camps like they do elsewhere.

    Never heard anyone defending Roma on cultural grounds, either.
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    Can't be compared these are not illegal Roma camps like in France, Dutch trash mostly

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    The nuisance they cause seems to be very similar, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralizec View Post
    The nuisance they cause seems to be very similar, though.
    Nah, the crime is arguably much more serious but they just want to be left alone, they won't cause any trouble. Where Roma's settle petty-crime explodes, pickpocketing, shoplifting, burglary, and not a crime but VERY annoying, begging

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