The House of Origin [Concluded]

[Visor]

2 people showed up to kill Choxorn, GH, Ishmael
3 people showed up to kill GH, Jarrema, Choxorn, AA
Lazy and Auto killed Pizza
I blacked out apparently. Someone here must be able to roleblock. That's why the vig on GH wasn't sucessful.
Thing is, that accounts for every person, from memory. Which means that the scum must be able to hide in groups and do their action, because everyone is accounted for.

Ftr, I have no recollection of my earlier post, though I'm glad it was typed properly. Auto and I discussed orders last night, and GH wanting to kill Choxorn would eliminate the last known partnership besides Lazy and Auto, making it hard on the town. Once Choxorn or myself die, none of us townies can perform night actions, apart from Lazy and Auto. I can post the Pms if necessary. (unless there is a no quoting rule).

If anyone else has had a similar result with blacking out, please post in thread.

[Visor]

GH, hope everything goes okay with you and the hurricane, by the way.

[Montmorency]

Thing is, that accounts for every person, from memory. Which means that the scum must be able to hide in groups and do their action

Nonsense, there's no way Khaan's going to have a role that can kill twice in one night. That's not overpowered for a carefully refined game of this sort.

Though if it were, Double A would clearly be the killer.

[Visor]

Nonsense, there's no way Khaan's going to have a role that can kill twice in one night. That's not overpowered for a carefully refined game of this sort.

Though if it were, Double A would clearly be the killer.

Please tell me how it works then? The numbers add up, and I was only absent because I blacked out.

Unvote; Vote: Double A

[Montmorency]

That wasn't an endoresement of a Double A lynch, though you may certainly wish to vig him for his many inconsistencies and the fact that the host refuses to WoG him.

Don't forget, Crow: one vig + 1 lynch is beneficial, as it narrows down the list from 4 to 3 on the final day.

[Jarema]

Please tell me how it works then? The numbers add up, and I was only absent because I blacked out.

The simplest answer IMO is that you were not blocked, but you are just scum. Everyone is accounted for, except you

[Visor]

The simplest answer IMO is that you were not blocked, but you are just scum. Everyone is accounted for, except you

I sent in orders on the GH vig. I even cc'ed all of you. Except I wasn't able to take part in the vig, because I blacked out for some reason.

[White_eyes:D]

I sent in orders on the GH vig. I even cc'ed all of you. Except I wasn't able to take part in the vig, because I blacked out for some reason.

Why am I getting "Psycho Mafia" vibes from this??

Either Visorslash is the killer and he doesn't know it, or he is lying. Visorslash must ask the question of what you were doing while blacked out....I doubt you were lying somewhere unconscious.

[Visor]

Why am I getting "Psycho Mafia" vibes from this??

Either Visorslash is the killer and he doesn't know it, or he is lying. Visorslash must ask the question of what you were doing while blacked out....I doubt you were lying somewhere unconscious.

And I can't possibly be telling the truth, can I? I'm telling you I blacked out.

[White_eyes:D]

Then you are the killer and don't know it. Everyone is accounted for and the kill write-up of the SK/Cultist sounds kind of hazy/dream-like. It's the perfect weapon for Scum to use because not even the player who blacked out knows what happened, and can act perfectly normal.

Edit: Wouldn't save you from a lynch near the end though.

[Montmorency]

A question: why would Visor suddenly develop ADD? Why would he cooperate to hide on the last night, but not on this one? And if he's an unwitting killer, then why did he never black out before, nor fail to participate in actions?

Something doesn't add up.

Note that this is the same killer that showed up on N2 and N3, and N4.

I rummaged through my belongings once more after the group adjourned. Finally. Such long meetings, so boring. They just did the same thing over and over again, cowering in fear as they picked out the one they feared most of all. I can cure this! Such joy they were missing out on! I threw my bear pelt over my shoulders, reveling for a moment in the embrace. I took off at a spring, in glee at the feeling of absolute freedom.

End it.

I reeled, pulling up to a stop. What? Who?

End it now.

I looked around, spinning on the spot. There was nobody here! But voices, still they came!

It is hopeless. End it now.

The voices, they echoed like a chorus, smooth, but deep. Suddenly, I could feel it again. The despair… the knowledge of the unmovable object of destiny sitting obstinately in my path, blocking my way. I could never budge it. I slowly sat down, putting my head into my knees.

End it. Embrace oblivion.

I could hear a buzzing again. Oh no… the bees. Again? They were back to torment me again? Stop it… stop it…

You can stop it.

Wait. No. Suddenly, it was as though a fog lifted. The pit in my stomach vanished as the swarm descended upon me. I had defeated this! I did not fear! There was nothing to fear, not death, not bees, not bears!

NO! END IT!

I grinned maniacally. No. No, I would not end it. There was no fear. There was no pain. Others had to be shown the path. As though sensing my renewed confidence, the swarm dispersed. I took off at a sprint. I do not know what foul force wished me despair, but I was a triumphant prophet! I would never be brought down! I wheeled around a corner, still reveling in my liberation. I saw Ishmael coming down to me at a slow pace. His eyes went wide, in apparent shock at my appearance. I sprinted to him, and before he could respond, I smashed his jaw with my fist. My momentum carried me past, forcing me to wheel around, spinning on a heel. Ishmael seemed to shake off his shock, and withdrew a sword to me and readied a combat stance. Haha! A good man! He raised his sword high and rushed to me. I had done my job! To overcome a sight as fearsome as myself, surely he deserved to live for now and spread the word! Cackling at the top of my lungs, I took off down the hallway, knowing he would never catch me.

Ishmael didn't die. I blocked Buddhafish that night, as previously mentioned. However, this same killer went on to get Ishmael last night. On one hand, how did Ishmael survive the first time? He was and is clearly town. Buddhafish must have been the "colored-text" killer. Note even that the color of the text changed on this night only.

For Visor to be scum, there must be a delayed mechanism at work, a transfer mechanism. Whatever's going on here, it's sure to be convoluted.

I have one question for GH: You claimed an impairment that reduces significantly the likelihood of showing up to group-actions. On the two days for which you have been observed, and the one you mentioned to me (the details are known only to GH and other deads), you've shown up successfully 3 of 3 times. Can you explain this?

[Visor]

Stop trying to twist everything so that I look scum, because that is what you are doing. This isn't Psycho Mafia, and someone in the group roleblocked me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

It is seriously weird when folks reference a game of mine that is many years old and wasn't even that good.

[White_eyes:D]

It is seriously weird when folks reference a game of mine that is many years old and wasn't even that good.

Maybe not to you but it was hilarious when the detective realized he was the Killer and revealed with his theory.

Good times there...I like to be surprised with a pretty insidious set-up that messes with the scum as much as the town. Might explain why I enjoyed this game despite being killed off.

You and Monty rushed to the defense of Visorslash pretty quickly though....are you guys in a cult?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Who, me?

I didn't rush to anyone's defense. You must have me confused with someone who is paying attention/cares. Visorslash is basically saying what's happening to him is the same stuff that happened to me.

I was town throughout the whole game. The affliction put me under the command of Monty, who you guys were correct in killing. As for myself, not so much, but really, you at least ended what had become a rather annoying and pointless ordeal. I wasn't going to be any use analyzing this game because I got to that point where I couldn't make heads or tails of it anyway.

Visor may be town and useless/dangerous, but he could still be town. Or, he could be faking it.

In either case he's not much use to you alive or dead. But if he's not scum, you make no progress lynching him. Best be sure.

[White_eyes:D]

Psycho Mafia is the only mafia game I ever played where that kind of thing happened....that's why I referenced it, feel kinda horrible about it now.

Everyone else was seen doing something and Visorslash was the only one who wasn't and "black out" as he said. Do you think someone is pulling Puppetmaster and can do actions on the side?

[TinCow]

The simplest answer IMO is that you were not blocked, but you are just scum. Everyone is accounted for, except you

QFT

Lynch Visor. He's the only person not accounted for in the write-up, and there's no one able to verify his claimed alibi.

[Visor]

QFT

Lynch Visor. He's the only person not accounted for in the write-up, and there's no one able to verify his claimed alibi.

Why would I admit to not being in the write up, as scum? Do you think me stupid or something? Especially in a group of 4 as well, where the absent person would be easy to identify.

You're wasting time lynching me, there is a person out there who can masquerade in groups and kill and/or roleblock. Possibly a third party.

[TinCow]

Why has your mysterious role blocker never acted before last night? All previous blocks were due to Monty and Monty is dead. This seems like a very unlikely stage of the game for scum to start role blocking instead of killing. Also, if your mysterious new blocker was blocking you AND in another night action, then who did the solo kill last night? Why are you not concerned about that person?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Monty: I always show up, I'm just usually ineffective. For example, if I was in a vig group of four and I didn't get a lucky roll, the target would probably be able to overpower me and escape or something.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I will note that this game already has one example of a scumbag who did not have to personally attend the destruction of townies, by brainwashing someone else to do their dirty work.


So all this nonsense about "alibis" is more nonsense than usual. Here, it really DOES prove nothing.

[Montmorency]

I will note that this game already has one example of a scumbag who did not have to personally attend the destruction of townies, by brainwashing someone else to do their dirty work.

I was not scum. I was a survivalist 3rd-party and the host kept some key details secret. The mistakes I made were perfectly legitimate.

By the way, I've found the solution the Visor problem. Visor, can you describe the terms of your blackout in more detail? I feel like it might have something to do with the lynch writeup.

[seireikhaan]

2 1/2 hours left, folks.

[autolycus]

Monty, how many times do I have to tell you: the person who attacked Ishmael that night was atpg. The bee reference and the fear obsession confirm it. However, the colored writing might still be connected to a scum who controls others that normally manifests via red text. If that's the case, then visorslash and lazy are innocent, and somebody else isn't. I recommend lynching choxorn.

A question: why would Visor suddenly develop ADD? Why would he cooperate to hide on the last night, but not on this one? And if he's an unwitting killer, then why did he never black out before, nor fail to participate in actions?

Something doesn't add up.

Note that this is the same killer that showed up on N2 and N3, and N4.



Ishmael didn't die. I blocked Buddhafish that night, as previously mentioned. However, this same killer went on to get Ishmael last night. On one hand, how did Ishmael survive the first time? He was and is clearly town. Buddhafish must have been the "colored-text" killer. Note even that the color of the text changed on this night only.

For Visor to be scum, there must be a delayed mechanism at work, a transfer mechanism. Whatever's going on here, it's sure to be convoluted.

I have one question for GH: You claimed an impairment that reduces significantly the likelihood of showing up to group-actions. On the two days for which you have been observed, and the one you mentioned to me (the details are known only to GH and other deads), you've shown up successfully 3 of 3 times. Can you explain this?

[Montmorency]

I did it again? Man, I really saw what I wanted to see with that.

I still think Visor should describe his "blackout" in more detail - though with 2 hours on the clock, he's not looking good...

[Choxorn]

Why would I admit to not being in the write up, as scum? Do you think me stupid or something? Especially in a group of 4 as well, where the absent person would be easy to identify.

You're wasting time lynching me, there is a person out there who can masquerade in groups and kill and/or roleblock. Possibly a third party.

You're just WIFOM'ing now. You admit to not being in the write-up because you don't think we'd expect a scum to admit to that.

And honestly, you being roleblocked sounds ridiculous. If 8 people accounted for everything that happened last night, that means that the scum can roleblock you, attack Ishmael, and join one of the vig groups, all at the same time, or that some random non-scum accounted for the extra kill or roleblock (and why would they roleblock you or kill Ishmael if they weren't scum?), or that there's more than one scum left and they can still do all of that in one night.

No, Visor. I'd say it's far more likely that you pretended to join the group, then went off and attacked Ishmael because you're the last scum and you came up with this lame cover story.

[Montmorency]

No, Visor. I'd say it's far more likely that you pretended to join the group, then went off and attacked Ishmael because you're the last scum and you came up with this lame cover story.

My key issue with this is that Visor isn't so stupid as to break his cover. Why break cover when there are 3 other people in the group? Moreover, it would have been much safer to kill while there were 8 people in the group, as was the case with the Buddha-wagon - in case you think of a kill-ebvery-other-day requirement.

[Visor]

Unvote; Vote Choxorn

[Visor]

All it said was that I blacked out shortly after leaving the camp, then I woke up when the lynch was ready to start.

[seireikhaan]

So, round over. I'll be taking this one a bit slowly, super tired. Will try to have it wrapped up asap.