Trying to explain the level of feminist idiocy that control Sweden...

[Strike For The South]

Can the man use this as a valid defense?

What if he had beaten to death a really weak man? Would it be the patriarchies fault for forcing that boy into a physical, dangerous profession?

[Kadagar_AV]

Can the man use this as a valid defense?

He's pretty psychotic... He politly apoligized to the corpse just after... I think he's a "keeper" for our justice system, so to say.



EDIT: As to your edit, as is the case that wasn't the case. So kind of a moot point.

[Strike For The South]

He's pretty psychotic... He politly apoligized to the corpse just after... I think he's a "keeper" for our justice system, so to say.



EDIT: As to your edit, as is the case that wasn't the case. So kind of a moot point.

At my heaviest I could have thrown a 150 pound man around as easily as a 115 pound woman. Your main line of argument seems to be that feminism emboldened her to the point, where she thought she could do a mans job. You then claim that her murder is the at least partially to blame on this mentality.

You contradict yourself when you say that a heavier woman would have been more suitable, this, already is a merit based system.

You seem to take more of an issue with the fact that she was so small, rather than her just being a woman.

[Vuk]

At my heaviest I could have thrown a 150 pound man around as easily as a 115 pound woman. Your main line of argument seems to be that feminism emboldened her to the point, where she thought she could do a mans job. You then claim that her murder is the at least partially to blame on this mentality.

You contradict yourself when you say that a heavier woman would have been more suitable, this, already is a merit based system.

You seem to take more of an issue with the fact that she was so small, rather than her just being a woman.

People should be able to get the job based on merit. Of course feminists argue that it is unfair that these jobs are held mostly by men, who are generally much bigger and stronger. They say that women on average are just as capable as men for these jobs, and should have equal representation in traditionally male dominated jobs that rely on strength and generally have some amount of danger involved. They are therefore saying that you physical abilities should not be taken into account. If you do take it into account and hire based on merit, those jobs will continue to be held by men.

Also, there is more than just size to be taken into account. When I studied martial arts, every single woman I sparred with was much more timid than the men. We had a woman there who was built like an ox and nearly 6 feet tall. She was bigger and stockier than the average guy. I sparred guys there much smaller than her and far more her junior in TKD, and they could take my hard kicks through their armour. When I sparred her once, she had to stop after 5 punches to the floating ribs, as he abs were spasming and she could not breathe.

Even the stockier women who are into martial arts have (in my experience) been more timid, and not able to handle nearly the same amount of abuse that much smaller and less skilled men were able to.

When discussing women serving in the military it is frequently brought up that a woman can easily use a gun. Maybe that is so, but it doesn't apply here. When things get hairy, they get physical and close. I don't think I would ever hire a woman for a job like that, even if she was large and had martial arts or military experience. I wouldn't do it because I don't think it is proper, but for the same reason I would not hire a particularly small man, a man with a physical disability, or an unskilled man: because I don't want them to die. (or other people to die because they cannot do their job)
You may think that is sexist of me, but I don't care. If I was an employer, I wouldn't want to get people killed so I wouldn't be called a sexist.

[rvg]

... I don't think I would ever hire a woman for a job like that, even if she was large and had martial arts or military experience. I wouldn't do it because I don't think it is proper, but for the same reason I would not hire a particularly small man, a man with a physical disability, or an unskilled man: because I don't want them to die. (or other people to die because they cannot do their job).

Yep, that's it. They can pass all the laws they want, but those laws won't change reality. People used to understand that.

Reality has been pretty simple: a big psychotic man can snap a petite lil lady like a twig. No law is going to change that reality. The very fact that that girl chose to ignore reality so that she can take advantage of the law doesn't paint her as the sharpest tool in the shed. Sadly, but unsurprisingly she was removed from the gene pool. Darwin wins again.

[Vuk]

Yep, that's it. They can pass all the laws they want, but those laws won't change reality. People used to understand that.

Reality has been pretty simple: a big psychotic man can snap a petite lil lady like a twig. No law is going to change that reality. The very fact that that girl chose to ignore reality so that she can take advantage of the law doesn't paint her as the sharpest tool in the shed. Sadly, but unsurprisingly she was removed from the gene pool. Darwin wins again.

That is a dark and pretty sick way to look at it. It is not her fault if she was brainwashed by a faulty education system and media. That is their fault.

[rvg]

That is a dark and pretty sick way to look at it. It is not her fault if she was brainwashed by a faulty education system and media. That is their fault.

Life oftentimes is "dark and pretty sick." As for whose fault it is, both are at fault. The society for creating a stupid law and the girl for using the law instead of using her head.

[Greyblades]

Personally I'm surprised that anyone who isnt bult like an ox or given military training is either willing to be/allowed into such a perilous job. Also shouldnt they have had tazers or something a bit more apropriate to take crazed murderers than a baton?

[rvg]

Well, it sounds like good old Darwin is handling the problem just fine.

[Strike For The South]

Well, it sounds like good old Darwin is handling the problem just fine.

What the hell does this even mean?

New Rule: I am the only one who can post something under 20 words, the rest of you are terrible at humor

[Fisherking]

I would be more inclined to say that it is the feminization of Swedish Government than feminism that is to blame.

I saw an article on the subject. Obviously their regulations did not permit a proper response to the attack.

All those feel good regulations got a woman killed. When a man showed up the guy went to his knees before anyone got close to him. If the first responder had clotted him upside the head the girl might still be alive.

http://www.danielhammarberg.com/2011...-blows-landed/