Trying to explain the level of feminist idiocy that control Sweden...

[Sir Moody]

seriously you guys are all totally nuts...

you doing exactly what Horetore did in the Anti-Semitism thread! jumping at the first chance to get at what you hate (in his case the right wing)

there is no freaking link to Feminism in this, hell the OP actually agreed that some women are suited for Prison work - which is the feminist stance ironically - Feminists are not about replacing men in the work force just for the hell of it - Feminism is about giving Women the CHANCE to compete in the work force on merit rather than excluding them purely because they aren't men -

what you all should be raging about is Prison policy - a policy that allowed a prisoner (who clearly was deranged) to be alone with ANY guard - Male or Female

as I said before (and was totally ignored) you just don't do that - all it takes is one surprise knock to the head and ANYONE is in danger

seriously get off your high horses...

[Kadagar_AV]

seriously you guys are all totally nuts...

you doing exactly what Horetore did in the Anti-Semitism thread! jumping at the first chance to get at what you hate (in his case the right wing)

there is no freaking link to Feminism in this, hell the OP actually agreed that some women are suited for Prison work - which is the feminist stance ironically - Feminists are not about replacing men in the work force just for the hell of it - Feminism is about giving Women the CHANCE to compete in the work force on merit rather than excluding them purely because they aren't men -

what you all should be raging about is Prison policy - a policy that allowed a prisoner (who clearly was deranged) to be alone with ANY guard - Male or Female

as I said before (and was totally ignored) you just don't do that - all it takes is one surprise knock to the head and ANYONE is in danger

seriously get off your high horses...

I think my gripe isn't as much what happened, but rather the abuse someone got who argued that this was wrong and should not have happened. Had the media had some sort of balanced, letting different opinions be heard, I would have no issue with it.

However, two issues are in Sweden completely impossible to talk about: Feminism and immigration.

If you say ANYTHING that resembles criticism towards women s ability in any field, what so ever, you are Satan and must repent and die. If you say ANYTHING that resembles criticism towards immigration, the same.

I just lack a debate.

We are probably the WORLDS most feminist country, would it not be worth discussing the pro's and con's of it?
We accept more immigrants than any other European country (per capita), should we not discuss the pro's and con's of that either?

These questions are pillars in Sweden's political life, kind of like Gunbortion is in the states. The difference is that we by and large have pretty much every party on one side in the debate, and a wall of hurt hitting you from media on the other side of the debate.

Not very constructive.

[Vuk]

seriously you guys are all totally nuts...

you doing exactly what Horetore did in the Anti-Semitism thread! jumping at the first chance to get at what you hate (in his case the right wing)

there is no freaking link to Feminism in this, hell the OP actually agreed that some women are suited for Prison work - which is the feminist stance ironically - Feminists are not about replacing men in the work force just for the hell of it - Feminism is about giving Women the CHANCE to compete in the work force on merit rather than excluding them purely because they aren't men -

what you all should be raging about is Prison policy - a policy that allowed a prisoner (who clearly was deranged) to be alone with ANY guard - Male or Female

as I said before (and was totally ignored) you just don't do that - all it takes is one surprise knock to the head and ANYONE is in danger

seriously get off your high horses...

No, I am not nuts. Women should not be doing work like that in a prison that has male prisoners. I don't think women should be allowed in that type of work, not because they are not men, but because they are not nearly as well suited to it. I doubt that even a very tough, skilled woman would be as good as the average guy who gets hired there. So based on the merit of their body-types, I think they should not do work like that. Not because they should be punished, but because hiring for jobs like that have to based on a candidates performance potential. Yeah, a guy could be taken by surprise as well, but he would have a heck of a better chance staying alive.

[Montmorency]

Had it been a buff Ogre woman who got killed I wouldn't have cared as much or blamed it on feminism. But it was not a buff Ogre woman, it was a petite young girl.

Hehe, this could be interpreted in a way you perhaps didn't intend. Or did you?

They are therefore saying that you physical abilities should not be taken into account.

Sounds like they're saying bulky women should be encouraged to apply for prison security posts.

[Kadagar_AV]

Hehe, this could be interpreted in a way you perhaps didn't intend. Or did you?



Sounds like they're saying bulky women should be encouraged to apply for prison security posts.

LOL Monty, I didn't see it at first... But yeah, could def be interpreted in a way I didn't intend.


I do NOT think women should never ever by any chance work with male violent prisoners. I met a Captain in the Swedish Armed Forces, female, who could easily kick my behind. She had a good few inches and pounds on me as well. I would feel more than safe letting her handle violent male criminals, well, not more than safe, but as safe as if it was a man.

But again, the girl who died was... MINUSCULE. And it's only a society hell bent on putting women's liberation before what is sane who allowed it.

[rory_20_uk]

That women went for the job. She knew the risks. She died. End of story. Soldiers are dying in Afghanistan all the time. Some jobs have the risk of violent death.

Perhaps some systems need to relf-regulate: when all the petite women in these jobs have either died or left due to the risk of death then death rates will decrease. I see no need to regulate things. Feminism should be about equal opportunities, not outcomes.