rvg, some couple of years later?

[Ironside]

Is all torture bad, that really depends on the information you need at the time. I'll do it myself if I know it's a little bit of evil for the greater good.

Would you institutionalise it, ergo make it legal?

The ticking bomb scenario is probably one of the least effective use of torture btw. The crock also have something he needs to outlast. Getting a location is easy, getting the correct location with the correct disarmament code?

Most effective use of torture should be S-21. Ironically enough they also used waterboarding.