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    Default Re: rvg, some couple of years later?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    We never need to give in to fear.
    It's not about giving in to fear, it's about putting lives above principles. If you don't want to torture a terrorist in order to prevent an attack, that's your prerogative. Me? I'd light a fire under him in a heartbeat. As for whether or not it is moral or immoral, ask the families of the victims of the terrorist attack that could have been prevented. To me, saving the lives of my compatriots is of higher priority than respecting the rights of a person whose life's aim is the utter destruction of our way of life.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    Doing something that is wrong because you are overcome with righteous and violent emotion, understandable to all? We have something for that in our legal system, called a Crime of Passion. It is still a crime. nate or spontaneous. It was cold, calculated, and involved many top white-house lawyers and many layers of secrecy.[

    Its moot anyway, though. The process that legitimized torture under the Bush administration was far from passion
    What emotion? What passion? It's a matter of logic. If you don't obtain information A, people die. Suspect B has information A, but refuses to relinquish it. So you do what needs to be done to obtain A. End of story. This isn't vengeance, it's intelligence gathering.
    Last edited by rvg; 09-11-2012 at 13:35.
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