rvg, some couple of years later?

[Papewaio]

Okay so let's see...
Has the fact that they were actually tortured been proven in court?

Reciprocity it's like a wheel you know. Just remember that your standards state people are guilty until proven innocent. If we don't need a court of law to prove that a terrorist is or is not in fact Joe Average, we don't need a court of law to rubber stamp any other facts or rumours.

Just remember these aren't my standards these are yours applied across the board.