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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    OK - now explain how they did it, because causing those sorts of casualties in an urban area is quite a feat when you lack the means to deliver the munitions by air. I suggest for look up the actual effectiveness of chemical weapons before engaging in flights of fancy like this.
    Effectiveness of chemical weapons does vary substantially depending on the weather, this is true. Still, this scenario is far from impossible.

    Bottom line - is that such a massive undertaking that it couldn't be carried off.
    I would be very careful about asserting that something cannot be done. It's easy to hide one's head in the sand and pretend that something like this can not happen.

    9/11 was done by a bunch of guys with box cutters when nobody paid any attention to Muslims and it worked primarily because everyone expected the hijacked planes to be landed, not used as missiles. The sort of thing you're talking about requires either theft from a weapons dump or an industrial laboratory to concoct the poison, a means to get that much of the stuff into the country and multiple devices to achieve a good spread, even using mortars concealed in vans you'd need over a dozen, that means lots of people, chemists, drivers, planners, people to operate the devices...
    One thing that stood out regarding the 9/11 is the meticulous planning of the event.


    capturing one guy wouldn't help - you'd only get, at best, one bomb unless you captured the Boss, in which case he'd almost certainly be enough of a loon he wouldn't crack in 14 hours.
    It wouldn't help because you have already declared so. You have given up without giving it a try. So, maybe you would have been able to disarm a couple of explosive devices, that's a few thousand lives saved right there...

    There's no evidence torture works, and studies were done, what they found was that people just lie and tell the integrator what he wants to hear to stop the pain.
    There's no evidence that torture *always* works, but to suggest that torture can not produce useful information is ridiculous.

    Your anecdote about Rabin probably isn't even true.
    I saw it on TV. I will look for a link. This is the best I can do for now.
    Last edited by rvg; 09-16-2012 at 02:13.
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