U.S. Ambassador and three others killed in Libya.

[Hax]

My problem, is that we can depict Jesus as homosexual, and Christians will start mail bombing you.

Depict Muhamemd in any way, and muslims will start bombing you. Do you see the difference there?

Muhammad has been depicted numerous times throughout history, both by Muslims and non-Muslims alike and very little people were hurt in the process (not counting falling bricks and mishaps with shovels and the like). So that's definitely not the same as "in any way".

That does not at all detract the hysterical and insane reactions that seemed to be the case after the Jyllands-Posten cartoons or this more recent film, which is not what I'm arguing about and merits no arguing at all. There are some crazy people out there.

I am not saying all muslims are idiots. But all idiots seem to be muslim.

Really? The Church of Scientology has done some crazy things? Remember Aum Shinrikyo in Japan? The Manson family? Jonestown?

The notion that (mass) hysteria and disproportionate acts of retribution are somehow a part of Islam or that it is supposed to be a religion that lends itself extraordinarily well (speaking relatively to Christianity, Judaism and other religions) to violent behaviour is rooted in the idea that there are core aspects of Islam (as a religion) that are incompatible with our working definition of "civilisation". This then supports the notion that behind every well-behaved and decent Muslim there exists some kind of core that hates democracy and women. People just have to scratch hard enough and then this core would supposedly reveal itself. Edward Saïd wrote a lot about this concept back in the seventies.

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Muhammad has been depicted numerous times throughout history, both by Muslims and non-Muslims alike and very little people were hurt in the process (not counting falling bricks and mishaps with shovels and the like). So that's definitely not the same as "in any way".

That does not at all detract the hysterical and insane reactions that seemed to be the case after the Jyllands-Posten cartoons or this more recent film, which is not what I'm arguing about and merits no arguing at all. There are some crazy people out there.

Well, my point is that other religions seem to do a WAY better job of sorting out their loons.

Until the rest of the muslims start acting out against your more lunatical members of the muslim family, you must understand that the family at large will be questioned.

[Hax]

Well, my point is that other religions seem to do a WAY better job of sorting out their loons.

Until the rest of the muslims start acting out against your more lunatical members of the muslim family, you must understand that the family at large will be questioned.

Explaining to you the exact causes of why things are as they are takes a venture back into the 19th century and the foundation of the Saudi state, which will help explain a lot, but not everything.

I also disagree with the notion that somehow, Muslims are immediately complicit or approve of the actions committed by these people in Libya and Egypt, as I don't see the reason why the Irish should somehow all distance themselves from the IRA or that Germans should distance themself from the Holocaust now. A better example might be the presence of neo-nazis in contemporary Russia. When is the last time you said: "not all Russians are idiots, but all idiots seem Russian. Why aren't Russians distancing themselves from those neo-nazis in Moscow"?

you must understand that the family at large will be questioned.

This is not only arse gravy of the worst sort, it's also quite dangerous. So now Muslims from Indonesia, Morocco, Iran and Lebanon, with all the sectarian differences and differences in opinions between them are somehow also complicit.

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This is not only arse gravy of the worst sort, it's also quite dangerous. So now Muslims from Indonesia, Morocco, Iran and Lebanon, with all the sectarian differences and differences in opinions between them are somehow also complicit.

Because they are silent.

[Hax]

Silence does not equal complicity.

In addition: Al-Azhar responds

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Silence does not equal complicity.

In addition: Al-Azhar responds

What about Morsi. Where is his voice?

[Hax]

Moving the goalposts.