A number is a quantity, nothing more.Originally Posted by rvg
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A number is a quantity, nothing more.
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A quantity is a quantity, seems like numbers just don't cut it
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How?
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From your link, a cube can apparentlty by devided into two cubes, that is not possible yet can be proven mathematically
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A cube cannot be partitioned in this way, that is exactly what Fermat's Last Theorem states (when considering cubes n = 3, therefore n > 2) and it is mathematically proven to be impossible. I think you misread?
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Possibly, but I think you misunderstood, read again
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Which bit? From "my link":
It is impossible to separate a cube into two cubes, or a biquadrate into two biquadrates, or in general any power higher than the second into two powers of the like degree; I have discovered a truly remarkable proof which this margin is too small to contain.
For the "biquadrate" (fourth power) case, Fermat's earlier assertion is sufficient to imply the later one: if two fourth powers cannot sum to a perfect square, they cannot sum to a fourth power either (since any fourth power, say w4, is also a perfect square, namely, the square whose side measures w2). But Fermat was asserting much more. In modern notation Fermat's assertion – known to mathematicians as Fermat's last theorem, or FLT for short – states that the equation xn + yn = zn has no solution if x, y and z all are positive integers and n is a whole number greater than 2.
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Where in nature can I find 731?
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I see it on my screen right here.
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Can you weigh it?
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Some multiple of 9.10938188 × 10^-31 kilograms, presumably.
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And that's the weight of what?
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Lies.
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Weight is irrelevant. The photon, for instance, has no mass at all. Still exists.
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Love also exists, but it's not an empirical object. Anyway, the idea of numbers being anything but abstract is so stupid, I'm not even gonna discuss it. Next thing I'll be hearing is that the Earth is flat.
Last edited by rvg; 09-16-2012 at 21:23.
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numbers aren't abstract, they're an abstraction - they are a sign used to represent a concrete reality.
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This is a fundamental misconception of what mathemathics is. An extremely common one, but still fundamentally wrong.
Mathematics is not abstract. Not in any way whatsoever. One can use abstract thinking to solve problems, like in every other scientific field, but the basis of mathematics will always be the natural world. Numbers exist because they are the names we have given to sizes we find in the world.
731 is easily found, just buy 731 apples, put them on the table before you and voila.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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No, no. I'm not looking for 731 apples, or 731 electrons or 731 widgets.
I'm looking for 731.
"And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman
“The market, like the Lord, helps those who help themselves. But unlike the Lord, the market does not forgive those who know not what they do.” - Warren Buffett
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Then you are looking for something different than what mathematicians look for.
It's like saying astronomy is unscientific because you can't see any stars in your waste basket.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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I'm sorry, I didn't realize that all this time mathematicians had apples in mind. Thank you for enlightening me.
"And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman
“The market, like the Lord, helps those who help themselves. But unlike the Lord, the market does not forgive those who know not what they do.” - Warren Buffett
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No problem!
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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