Another major scientific breakthrough!

**Tellos Athenaios** · 09-15-2012, 15:19

Originally Posted by Fragony

Am I stupid because I really don't understand that or just stupid

Here is a gentle introduction to the subject:
http://www.ega-math.narod.ru/Liv/Goldfeld.htm

**Moros** · 09-15-2012, 20:21

Also other major scientific news:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1884818.html

IBM was able to photograph bounds within a molecule, continuing and improving on their older pictures of molecules.

**HoreTore** · 09-15-2012, 20:53

Originally Posted by Moros

Also other major scientific news:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1884818.html

IBM was able to photograph bounds within a molecule, continuing and improving on their older pictures of molecules.

If this had been discovered by CERN, I'm sure a number of clueless politicians would've called for an end to such "useless research". It's a lot harder to call the research a waste of money when it's done by a commercial company though.

**Sarmatian** · 09-15-2012, 21:25

Originally Posted by HoreTore

If this had been discovered by CERN, I'm sure a number of clueless politicians would've called for an end to such "useless research". It's a lot harder to call the research a waste of money when it's done by a commercial company though.

Well, in all fairness, commercial companies aren't funded with taxpayer's money for the most part.

**HoreTore** · 09-15-2012, 21:42

Originally Posted by Sarmatian

Well, in all fairness, commercial companies aren't funded with taxpayer's money for the most part.

That's completely besides the point. I think you may have to reread my post...

The point is that this kind of research generates profit. If it didn't, IBM wouldn't be doing it. In other words, not funding this kind of research is a waste of tax payer money, while funding it generates more money.

**Moros** · 09-15-2012, 22:42

Originally Posted by Sarmatian

Well, in all fairness, commercial companies aren't funded with taxpayer's money for the most part.

Where does the money come from? The same people. Who aren't always happy with what they get for their money either. Do you really think goverments are the only organisations that rip us from our money?

**Papewaio** · 09-16-2012, 02:05

Mathematics isn't science.

It's like confusing weights with weight lifting.

**Beskar** · 09-16-2012, 02:12

There was the discovery of a new species of human a while back.

It looks like even old text books can be wrong.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 09-16-2012, 02:54

Originally Posted by Papewaio

Mathematics isn't science.

It's like confusing weights with weight lifting.

Mathematics is the only Science.

OK, so what I want to know is did this chap do it properly using chalk and tables, or did he cheat and use a computer?

**Moros** · 09-16-2012, 03:20

Originally Posted by Papewaio

Mathematics isn't science.

It's like confusing weights with weight lifting.

I guess it depends on what you'd call science. Just out of interest what do and don't you consider science and why?

**HopAlongBunny** · 09-16-2012, 06:05

Originally Posted by Papewaio

Mathematics isn't science...

But much to the chagrin of mathematicians, scientists seems to always find a "real world" use for it:p The search for a theorem that is not in any way useful continues...

Nature article on the original topic:

http://www.nature.com/news/proof-cla...primes-1.11378

Link to Mochizuki's blog:

http://www.kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~mot...s-english.html