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    master of the pwniverse Member Fragony's Avatar
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    Default Just let her die instead, much better

    Got mailed this video, Girl with a new Face, you can find it on youtube, don't feel like posting the various parts as copy-paste on an iPad is a nightmare. Video is full of emo-porn but thing is, she has now a better life than she had. Nice no. But I don't think it's all that nice, even cruel. It's pretty obvious she will never have a normallife, and I think it would be better for her if she had died.

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    You could say the same about Steven Hawking, but apparently he enjoys being alive

    From an evolution standpoint, and the fact that she will probably require lots of charity from others in order to survive and continue treatment, I guess someone could argue to let her die because its better to buy missles or fund BS political and religious agendas.

    Yours was also the attitude many had when cleft pallet surgeries were first coming around, and had poor results as the technology and procedure evolved. Now the kids look almost normal, and in third worlds and developing nations those surgeries are done almost 100% through charities.
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    All life is precious. It's not for us to decide if her life is "worth it". Unless you believe that when you die you come back/go to a better place/regenerate as some do, then this life is what you get. No re-runs, no second chances, this is it. Make the most of it, enjoy yourself, it's later than you think.

    Also things happen in life. Fires, accidents, assaults that could chance your physical appearance. No one said that life is fair but at lest you're alive.

    She's a very brave lass though. I salute her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    You could say the same about Steven Hawking, but apparently he enjoys being alive
    Hawking gets down.
    Steven Hawking frequents sex club

    as for the girl.....it up to her if she wants to live or not.
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    He earned worldwide fame with his 1988 best-seller "A Brief History of Time," though he made another big media bang last January when he called women "a complete mystery."
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    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    Default Re: Just let her die instead, much better

    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    You could say the same about Steven Hawking, but apparently he enjoys being alive

    From an evolution standpoint, and the fact that she will probably require lots of charity from others in order to survive and continue treatment, I guess someone could argue to let her die because its better to buy missles or fund BS political and religious agendas.

    Yours was also the attitude many had when cleft pallet surgeries were first coming around, and had poor results as the technology and procedure evolved. Now the kids look almost normal, and in third worlds and developing nations those surgeries are done almost 100% through charities.
    You misunderstand me, it's not about the money.

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    Aren't glasses, hearing aids and other things also "against" evolution? How many people today would have a little or a lot more misery in their lives were it not for some technological or medical advances? Aren't these advances part of our evolution as a species? What about warm clothing during winter?
    And where do you draw the line of whether a life is worth living? Isn't it for the person to decide (short term decisions excluded)?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Aren't glasses, hearing aids and other things also "against" evolution? How many people today would have a little or a lot more misery in their lives were it not for some technological or medical advances? Aren't these advances part of our evolution as a species? What about warm clothing during winter?
    And where do you draw the line of whether a life is worth living? Isn't it for the person to decide (short term decisions excluded)?
    Yeah it's up to everyone, but as horrible as it might sound I woud prefer it if they would just kill her. Not in any way of wat she is or could have been. But there is a much more vile cruelty, and that is fixing her to whatever they can do to make her suittable for parties.

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    You misread what I said, Frags, but thanks for the apology? I edited it to make myself more clear
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    Default Re: Just let her die instead, much better

    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    You misunderstand me, it's not about the money.

    That wasnt my point. I was just trying to cover all the bases.

    She may still be a child, but if she does not want to live, there are very simple solutions she can undertake to fix that. The more people fund her recovery I think the less likley she will be to take her own life because she knows so many people have a stake in her success, much in the same way that having loving parents and siblings greatly reduced ones chance of suicide. In her case, she is loved by people she does not even know.

    Due to her age I guess it was originally up to her parents, not to her, from the very start I suppose. She was not braindead or a vegetable, thoug. And I cannot imagine being told that there is a 1% chance of hope, and then not going double down on the bet. That, apparently, is what parents do. Good ones, at least
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