EB II/III on the shogun 2 engine?

[fightermedic]

there is no surer way to kill a mod than an engine change
mybe if rome 2 is really modable, all the models from EBII can be ported and the folks here are crazy enough to do it, you might see a EBIII on rome2
i think this is very unlikely
be glad if you see a first release of EBII, the amount of work in this mod is enormous enough

[Mithridates VI Eupator]

I believe this has been stated previously, but to reiterate: We will focus on completing EBII for M2TW. We will not abandon that project to move on to a new engine. In the case of Rome 2 being sufficiently moddable in the aspects of interest to us, we may or may not do an EBIII for that engine, but in that case, only after EBII is finished.

[Gaius Sempronius Gracchus]

I believe this has been stated previously, but to reiterate: We will focus on completing EBII for M2TW. We will not abandon that project to move on to a new engine. In the case of Rome 2 being sufficiently moddable in the aspects of interest to us, we may or may not do an EBIII for that engine, but in that case, only after EBII is finished.

Exactly what I would have expected to hear, what I think makes sense (and Ca Putt has put forward some strong reasons why it should be so) and also what I wanted to hear. Looking forward to EB2.

[Basileus_ton_Basileon]

Ahh. Sorry for being a muppet, then.

It's great news for the modding community though!

[moonburn]

if it´s totally portable as in copypaste beteween medieval and rome two or even eb1 being just copypasted to rome 2 engine then it shouldn´t be that hard if it´s not i´m sorry but i don´t wanna have to wait another 6 years for eb2

[Ludens]

It isn't straigthforward to port a total-conversion mod from R:TW to M2:TW. Some things can be transferred fairly easily, but others require a lot of work, and to actually remake the mod is something else entirely. That's one of the reasons why the team decided to start afresh. (With hindsight, of course, it is taking a lot longer than planned.)

And M2:TW is simply a development of the R:TW engine. The newer TW games use different engines. Even if CA decided not to reuse the S2:TW engine, the chance that they go back to the R:TW/M2:TW one is nil. Hence we cannot expect any backward compatibility between R:TW and R2:TW.

[MagicCuboid]

Just chiming in here... It's impossible to simply "port models" and so forth from EB2 to the new engine. The Warscape Engine uses binary coding, and all models are composed of many .variant files within folders within a .pack file. Simply put - they're nothing like the models in Medieval II.

Essentially no scripting, modeling, or even texturing really would survive the journey to the Warscape engine, it's just a different animal. For further weight of authority here, Jack Lusted, the Unit Design Lead on the Total War team has stated in no uncertain terms on twcenter.net that such a conversion is impossible and will not be supported.

[Ca Putt]

Indeed, I've seen quite some mods going down because they changed the Engine. If done before a "finished"(like EB1.2) is out It will cost you(the modder) large chuncks of your fanbase and decreace the grouth of the same as you don't get all the the people who say "hey your first mod was great I can't wait for this one!". Without a good fanbase, modding is actually quite a lot harder.
An example here would be the "EB" mod for Mount and Blade: they had A version for M&B 0.9 (or was it 1.09?) and then ported to Warband, after M&B was patched(thus became unplayable) there was no stable version of the game and the forum died off mostly.

So IF there will be an EB III then that might be for a contaporary Total war engine, but only after EB2 is "finished" and I wouldn't bet on the EB team being to keen on doing another mod :D

-at least that's what I would do if I were the EB team. ;)