Brown coats

[seleucid empire]

I've seen some pictures on the web that suggests the sabaen noble infantry were originally swordsmen in the earlier versions. Is there a reason they got changed? Cause having elite swordsmen would have been a big advantage over some of the eastern factions.

[Titus Marcellus Scato]

Don't they still have swords, but as a secondary weapon?

I guess with spears they are the only Saba unit that have a decent chance to stand up to a charge from a Seleucid or Ptolemoi general's bodyguard heavy cavalry.

[seleucid empire]

Don't they still have swords, but as a secondary weapon?

I guess with spears they are the only Saba unit that have a decent chance to stand up to a charge from a Seleucid or Ptolemoi general's bodyguard heavy cavalry.

They have javelins and spears now

Actually, I've found the sabaen levy spearmen better at holding the lines. They have similar morale , 200 men units and are 500 cheaper to hire.

Brown coats are really bad spearmen in my opinion

[Basileus_ton_Basileon]

I personally find them to be the better-than-nothing medium infantry/spearmen. The only issue I have with them is that by the time I could afford to have them in any number, there are pandas and keltoi for me to use.

[seleucid empire]

I personally find them to be the better-than-nothing medium infantry/spearmen. The only issue I have with them is that by the time I could afford to have them in any number, there are pandas and keltoi for me to use.

They are worse at holding the line than the lowly Thureophoroi. And I agree with the cost thing. For some reason Saba economy is super weak even after you build the mines.

[lolpah]

You are confusing the Sabaean bodyguards with the nobles. The Bodyguards are the ones with swords and brown coats, and they accompany the Sabaean FMs in campaing. The nobles are the armoured ones with spears, and are normally recruitable.

[athanaric]

Brown coats are really bad spearmen in my opinion

Of course a supporter of the imperialistic Alliance would try his best to badmouth the Browncoats

But more on topic, in my experience they're actually good spearmen (they have 15 or 16 morale while the Sabaean levies have 13. Plus the javelins, better discipline, and armour). And anyway, in EB II they have bows, which will make them more dangerous.

[seleucid empire]

Of course a supporter of the imperialistic Alliance would try his best to badmouth the Browncoats

But more on topic, in my experience they're actually good spearmen (they have 15 or 16 morale while the Sabaean levies have 13. Plus the javelins, better discipline, and armour). And anyway, in EB II they have bows, which will make them more dangerous.

They take such high casualties all the time and they are supposed to be your best spearmen. They take a lot of damage form arrows, javelins and even holding a line, they will take high casualties.

Bows and swords or bows and spears?

PS. What imperialistic alliance?

[athanaric]

Bows and swords or bows and spears?

Bows and spears, as can be seen in the preview.

PS. What imperialistic alliance?

I thought since you mentioned "brown coats" you might get this popcultural reference... Anyway.