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Originally Posted by SoFarSoGood:
Rubbish; BAOR (British Army of the Rhine) left in the '90s. The US and Britain still have bases in Germany. Germany was unable to go to war because A. It was divided and B. Western German forces were incorporated into NATO. You may as well argue that the Cold War deserves a Peace Prize.
NATO has been nominated and considered several times. And Gorby got the prize.Rubbish; BAOR (British Army of the Rhine) left in the '90s. The US and Britain still have bases in Germany. Germany was unable to go to war because A. It was divided and B. Western German forces were incorporated into NATO. You may as well argue that the Cold War deserves a Peace Prize.
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
NATO has been nominated and considered several times. And Gorby got the prize.
Of course he did, that is why the Noble price for peace is worth just as much as whatever you get when buying a pack of cornflakes. What the commision doesn't understand is that they won't be taken seriously anymore if they insist on shoving their opinion into throats. It was kinda fun to see Obama being absolutely emberrassed for recieving it he as he really didn't understand, and neither did I to be honest.NATO has been nominated and considered several times. And Gorby got the prize.
Originally Posted by Fragony:
Of course he did, that is why the Noble price for peace is worth just as much as whatever you get when buying a pack of cornflakes. What the commision doesn't understand is that they won't be taken seriously anymore if they insist on shoving their opinion into throats. It was kinda fun to see Obama being absolutely emberrassed for recieving it he as he really didn't understand, neither did I to be honest.
The Nobel prize is one of several other peace prizes. It is not the biggest in terms of money. It is, however, the most prestigious and famous. Why? Because of the choices made by its committee.Of course he did, that is why the Noble price for peace is worth just as much as whatever you get when buying a pack of cornflakes. What the commision doesn't understand is that they won't be taken seriously anymore if they insist on shoving their opinion into throats. It was kinda fun to see Obama being absolutely emberrassed for recieving it he as he really didn't understand, neither did I to be honest.
Gorby is among the most obvious candidates ever.
The thing is, Frags, that you do not support the ideals in Nobels will. You disagree with the premise of the prize. As such, it is no wonder that you disagree. And that's also why your opinion is irrelevant to the committee.
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
The Nobel prize is one of several other peace prizes. It is not the biggest in terms of money. It is, however, the most prestigious and famous. Why? Because of the choices made by its committee.
Gorby is among the most obvious candidates ever.
The thing is, Frags, that you do not support the ideals in Nobels will. You disagree with the premise of the prize. As such, it is no wonder that you disagree. And that's also why your opinion is irrelevant to the committee.
Live in your world all you want but trust me on this, nobody takes the peace price seriously anymore, it's nothing but a running jokeThe Nobel prize is one of several other peace prizes. It is not the biggest in terms of money. It is, however, the most prestigious and famous. Why? Because of the choices made by its committee.
Gorby is among the most obvious candidates ever.
The thing is, Frags, that you do not support the ideals in Nobels will. You disagree with the premise of the prize. As such, it is no wonder that you disagree. And that's also why your opinion is irrelevant to the committee.
Originally Posted by Fragony:
Live in your world all you want but trust me on this, nobody takes the peace price seriously anymore, it's nothing but a running joke
China seemed to disagree last year.Live in your world all you want but trust me on this, nobody takes the peace price seriously anymore, it's nothing but a running joke
Also, you posted this thread 11 minutes after it was awarded. You care. Even though you are far from the target audience.
Among those who fight for peace, human rights and democracy(that excludes you, frags), Nobels prize is still the modt prestigious. And that's what counts.
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
China seemed to disagree last year.
Also, you posted this thread 11 minutes after it was awarded. You care. Even though you are far from the target audience.
Among those who fight for peace, human rights and democracy(that excludes you, frags), Nobels prize is still the modt prestigious. And that's what counts.
I just get news a little faster, and everybofy expected it to be rediculous given it's reputationChina seemed to disagree last year.
Also, you posted this thread 11 minutes after it was awarded. You care. Even though you are far from the target audience.
Among those who fight for peace, human rights and democracy(that excludes you, frags), Nobels prize is still the modt prestigious. And that's what counts.
Edit, you are right by the way, I do care
Originally Posted by SoFarSoGood:
That is actually pretty good who is thatIf we were in 1995, then I could see the point - in a Post-Cold War era the EU provided a framework for Europe to move forward, but now the EU is exacerbating tensions, not easing them.
Originally Posted by rory_20_uk:
If Adams can be given the peace prize for killing less people, why not?
If Adams can be given the peace prize for killing less people, why not?
Adams never got the peace prize that was John Hume and David Trimble
Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy:
Adams never got the peace prize that was John Hume and David Trimble
Apologies Adams never got the peace prize that was John Hume and David Trimble
Bringing some peace to Portugal last night...
Originally Posted by SoFarSoGood:
Germany was unable to go to war because A. It was divided
Germany was unable to go to war because A. It was divided
I suppose that means Korea can't go to war either and there's no reason to have all these US forces down there?As for the EU not being a person, corporations are people, too!
That said the US should have gotten it, there are two ways to support that argument:
1. They enforce the pax americana by killing everyone who disagrees
2. They are evil but at least they draw all the other bad guys' attention so the rest of us can live in peace
I've always thought that the EU played a big role in European cooperation and cooperation is one of the keys to establish peace.
You can argue that it's not perfect as long as you want but you're not perfect yourself so why should I even accept your argument?
Just wait until Putin replaces Barroso and Russia joins at the same time, that's the first step to chinese inclusion etc.
There are great plans and world peace will come, you guys just lack vision and enthusiasm and optimism.
Bringing peace isn't enough to get the Nobel prize.
You have to bring peace in the manner described in his will. Which means peace brought about by a reduction of standing armies, not the peace enforced by large armies.
You have to bring peace in the manner described in his will. Which means peace brought about by a reduction of standing armies, not the peace enforced by large armies.
Originally Posted by Husar:
1. They enforce the pax americana by killing everyone who disagrees
I agree: It was NATO and the Soviet Bloc that stopped war. 1. They enforce the pax americana by killing everyone who disagrees
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
You have to bring peace in the manner described in his will. Which means peace brought about by a reduction of standing armies, not the peace enforced by large armies.
And the EU's contribution to the SALT Treaties?You have to bring peace in the manner described in his will. Which means peace brought about by a reduction of standing armies, not the peace enforced by large armies.
Originally Posted by Husar:
You can argue that it's not perfect as long as you want but you're not perfect yourself so why should I even accept your argument?
You do not have to! You can ignore me if you wish You can argue that it's not perfect as long as you want but you're not perfect yourself so why should I even accept your argument?
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