Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfhylwyr View Post
I don't agree with Ken Ham, I've just saying he could run rings round the average person in an evolution debate.

The average person can't even point out France on a map.
Eh, what?

What the creationists have demonstrated(and how on earth did you conclude that this guy didn't just accept creationism because his pastor or whatever told him so?), is that none of them knows anything whatsoever about evolution.

Their "facts" are just a bunch of misconceptions, outright lies and ignorance. If you believe creationism, then you have by default demonstrated that you have zero knowledge of evolution.

Creationists often win debates with sane people(evolutionists) though. Not because their arguments are good, but because they tell lies that completely stuns a normal person, which makes the already pro-creationist audience think dem dar proffessurs dunt know anything. That, plus dishonest empty rethoric.