Results 1 to 13 of 13

Thread: Way to go Australia

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Darkside Medic Senior Member rory_20_uk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Taplow, UK
    Posts
    8,690
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Way to go Australia

    I've not looked into the detail of this.

    Is it a 35 year old abusing a 7 year old, or does it include a 19 year old screwing a 15 year old who said she was 18 when they met at the 18+ only night club?

    Laws ensuring villification and hatred if you ever seek help. Drives elsewhere or underground.

    I am all for chemical castration in the worst cases, but if they're allowed in the community then they should be safe to be outside.

    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
    Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
    "If you can't trust the local kleptocrat whom you installed by force and prop up with billions of annual dollars, who can you trust?" Lemur
    If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.
    The best argument against democracy is a five minute talk with the average voter. Winston Churchill

  2. #2
    has a Senior Member HoreTore's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Norway
    Posts
    12,014

    Default Re: Way to go Australia

    I have no idea what the edited OP is about.

    Anyway, measures like these do absolutely nothing whatsoever to protect children. All it can ever do, is add additional punishment to offenders, after they have served their time and is supposed to be free, de facto creating a life-sentence for all sex offences.

    If your kid is abused, it won't be from a stranger in a park. It will be your father, uncle, teacher, football coach, local priest or, one of the worst, the 12-year old boy next door.

    Different kind of measures need to be taken if your aim is to actually reduce the number of abused children. If all you want to do is create the illusion of security without making anyone a tiny bit safer, this is the perfect measure.

    Conservatism in a nutshell, in other words. High on symbolism, low on reality.
    Last edited by HoreTore; 10-15-2012 at 23:08.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

  3. #3
    Mr Self Important Senior Member Beskar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Albion
    Posts
    15,930
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Way to go Australia

    I simply took some of Fragony's original points and worked them into a tangible opening post with a news source, opposed to simply locking the topic.
    Days since the Apocalypse began
    "We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
    "Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."

  4. #4

    Default Re: Way to go Australia

    Either these people have served their time or they haven't. If they are so dangerous that they need to have a list follow them around for the rest of their lives, they may as well be kept in prison.

    If we as a society do not believe that sex offenders can be rehabilitated, make the punishment a mandatory life sentence. Otherwise, these lists are cruel and abusive.

    Members thankful for this post (5):



  5. #5
    has a Senior Member HoreTore's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Norway
    Posts
    12,014

    Default Re: Way to go Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger View Post
    Either these people have served their time or they haven't. If they are so dangerous that they need to have a list follow them around for the rest of their lives, they may as well be kept in prison.

    If we as a society do not believe that sex offenders can be rehabilitated, make the punishment a mandatory life sentence. Otherwise, these lists are cruel and abusive.
    Spot on if you ask me.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

  6. #6
    master of the pwniverse Member Fragony's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    The EUSSR
    Posts
    30,680

    Default Re: Way to go Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger View Post
    Either these people have served their time or they haven't. If they are so dangerous that they need to have a list follow them around for the rest of their lives, they may as well be kept in prison.

    If we as a society do not believe that sex offenders can be rehabilitated, make the punishment a mandatory life sentence. Otherwise, these lists are cruel and abusive.
    Not a mandatory sentence, just kill them, much better. It's not really murder as they are sick.

  7. #7
    has a Senior Member HoreTore's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Norway
    Posts
    12,014

    Default Re: Way to go Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Not a mandatory sentence, just kill them, much better. It's not really murder as they are sick.
    You do know that 30-50% of all offenders are minors themselves, right?
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

  8. #8
    Heaps Gooder Member aimlesswanderer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Sidanee, Orstooraria
    Posts
    740

    Default Re: Way to go Australia

    Not to mention that the majority of abusers are family or friends... just like murders and assaults, but people like to focus on the "stranger danger".
    "All things are born from darkness, and all things return to darkness". Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind


  9. #9
    master of the pwniverse Member Fragony's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    The EUSSR
    Posts
    30,680

    Default Re: Way to go Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    You do know that 30-50% of all offenders are minors themselves, right?
    So don't kill these. But pedophilae can't be cured, and jail costs more than 200 euro's a day a person. Much better to euthanise them. Having any pity whatsoever is getting it all wrong. That kinda conflicts with our law so I like how Australia does it, you may not be dead but you will never be really alive either.

  10. #10
    Banned Kadagar_AV's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    In average 2000m above sea level.
    Posts
    4,176

    Default Re: Way to go Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger View Post
    Either these people have served their time or they haven't. If they are so dangerous that they need to have a list follow them around for the rest of their lives, they may as well be kept in prison.

    If we as a society do not believe that sex offenders can be rehabilitated, make the punishment a mandatory life sentence. Otherwise, these lists are cruel and abusive.
    Word.

    EDIT: Me, HT and PJ agreeing. Now if we could just cure cancer...
    Last edited by Kadagar_AV; 10-16-2012 at 08:14.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO