which, I will say this about atpg as well: he got attacked with the weakish water torrent that also attacked edse n1, him n2, and johnhughthom n3 (by the looks of it). At least, those respective water torrents don't seem to have done much, whereas I got a good little burn if not for my invested DV in fire after the first night.

so atpg's ONLY vague "proof" of innocence seems to be that he attacked a person who got murdered. legit to me.