Quote Originally Posted by issaikhaan View Post
Also of note, I believe this absolves my college of scum- we discussed our plan quite ahead of time in quicktopic.
I admit I haven't been following the details of this game super close and am catching up mostly now, but I don't follow that or how in the past you said you are "98% certain" or whatever.

There are at least 2 scum factions and it seems certainly one of them doesn't have the goal to simply kill everyone around. In addition, I'm quite happy in asserting that the scum will happily go along with "let's not follow our VC of eliminating another college and simply stay alive guiz, this peace treaty is da best!". The scum can easily have items that make them scale faster than a townie (i.e. gain more XP or corruption), and giving more time before starting the college war disproportionately helps the scum.

Now obviously protecting you worked tonight and is all good, but considering all the attacks have been stacked on you last night (quite clearly scum oriented), what are all the people in other colleges doing besides explicitly going against what the rule says is the VC (i.e. why is there this armistice) and the scum happy in not killing anyone? Last night literally nothing happened, and I as a unaligned person I don't want to just give the scum a free pass to live as long as they fake act with their college.

I declined my random water college invite very early on n3 because I didn't want to go to a college where I had 0 AV and bother to spend the XP to raise that AV to go then kill other townies of the opposite college (pyromancer, I assume). I would rather spend that XP on DV and health as a unaligned, which payed off a tiny bit in a fire AV attack and certainly getting more and more health didn't hurt when mr. khaan's friends attacked me.

But I get confused when Mr water tincow (right, if I read things correctly?)
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Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
You killed the only man [head of waves] with decent taste in this college! DAMN YOU ALL!
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If that's the case, it was probably an attempt to frame the Water College and incite strife.

I'd like to request that the entire town stop with all the probing attacks for at least a little while and instead put some effort into finding the scum. There will be plenty of time for us to eliminate our opponents later, but that really should be done after the scum are caught. If we try and obliterate each other now we'll just be handing them a win. Scum-hunting is difficult enough in a game like this with non-fatal attacks and lynchings and the major restrictions on out-of-thread communication. We stand the best chance if we keep to ourselves at night and focus on lynching with a decent number each day.


goes around calling the head of the fire college a "wrong" lynch. Even if there is desire for a peace treaty, surely a little benefit like that is encouraging for when people finally have to break the little feel-good non-aggression pact.

I know that many (khaan, atpg, tincow, etc) seem to be asking for the colleges to take a pause from killing people and 'focus' on scum, but from my memory there has been almost no indication of the coordinated/"Devastating" 3 or more person attacks from people-from-the-same-college that actually indicates any real effort to do damage. There never was a college war to begin with, and I can imagine the scum even pushing forward for such a little peace treaty and kill people like me.

I don't see why a bunch of college educated folks in atpg's air or the geodudes, etc are not following their VCs (as I understand it from the rules, not being a part of a college myself) and people affiliated with those colleges attacking clearly unaligned people i.e. me, if you recall:

Quote Originally Posted by issaikhaan View Post
I will confirm the attack on Kennegit [sic] came from my college.
but they don't work together (i.e. my attack was not enough damage to be a coordinated attack). I know atpg had the touchy feely good of "look at how the colleges worked together to get a scum! isn't that grrrrrreeeeeaaaattt!" when clearly there are scum amongst the colleges who aren't even that interested in killing people, and everyone else is doing half hearted 1 person attacks on people like me. Is everyone honestly that confident their college will be the final one standing?

i.e. I see almost nothing about the colleges being cleared of scums because with the colleges having a fake little temporary armistice, the scum will just go along with that armistice. This little "we'll 'clear' everyone in our college then kill noncollegites" is just going to get a person like me killed, while doing nothing to final scum. I don't want THAT to happen, since I want all the scum gone and not just purge out my own college of scum then cowboy on up to kill an enemy college.

This bsmith air business while not being air college makes sense, and that seems like a good case to me, but I'm quite worried about the delay in real scum hunting. For all we know the scum want to do some sort of timed vc, or were generating like +1 corruption a night with a little magic dagger or whatever and will reach some uber powerful super corrupt state where the town won't bring them down.

honestly I actually just don't know what the VC is for them is and at least 1 scums being quite content to sit around and not attack worries me, and such silly discussions about starting corruption is quite vain as the majority of living players started out "vanilla" with the scum amongst them, i.e. the scum would be mostly indistinguishable from the vanillas. Particularly since clearly some scum don't care about having an AV of 5 o 6 or whatever to kill, and some townies will start with 1 corruption.

tl;dr: the armistice will reach a nonprogress point that I believe is right now, kills time for the scum that could be getting stronger OR more importantly don't even have an eliminate victory condition, encourages people to invest in AV rather than DV for the final war and make it easier for the high AV scum to hide, and hypothetically I treat "anyone not following the town VC is going for a different VC" and that's kind of the whole principle of the armistice. You'll kill unaligned perfectly content townies like myself while 'clear' your own college, people who only got a single water college invite forever ago and didn't want to have a 0 av college, while the scum could work towards a non elimination VC or scale differently than townies