Academy of Elemental Magic [Concluded]

**TinCow** · 12-16-2012, 16:45

Originally Posted by Ironside

Let say I'm into the plan to frame edse and make scans look failable. That's clever true.

Now when edse falls over innocent, what happens next? Innocent ATPG will suspect something, since it's low odds of it being a random framing (and I've already pointed it out earlier aka being aware of the situation) and look how many people knowing about the scan. Behold, by some odd action (since I usually posted all night actions in the main guild topic), I've only posted that in the wielder qt, where only me and ATPG is alive. After edse flips he'll accuse me. By some reason I'll expect that to fail, normal procedure will be done (aka lynch ATPG). When he flips innocent, look who's the next one to accuse. Ironside.

Yes, you have expected me to be that freaking stupid!!

I don't think that's equivalent. In the ATPG-engineered situation he would have known he would be the prime suspect immediately after the end of the lynch phase. In addition, the way he went about it during the day, first accusing and then defending edse, drew heavy attention to him as possible scum even before the lynch was done with. ATPG actively endangered the very lynch that he would have been trying to promote by the fake-out, which is very poor strategy and does not seems consistent with his style.

For an Ironside-engineered situation, it's far more subtle and has far greater benefits to offset the risk. First off, when the action was planned I was still alive. If I hadn't been killed, there would have been a three-way stand-off between you, me, and ATPG with all of us accusing each other. That would have been a lot of cover, particularly for a starting headmaster who was, up to that point, thought to be guaranteed innocent. Second, the sheer chaos of the situation was bound to have (and has indeed) disrupted the relatively peaceful state the town was in, which is to the mafia's advantage. Third, even if you are scum you're clearly only a recruit and thus not a vital role. At this point in the game it's a worthwhile gamble to risk the life of a recruit to sow this much chaos and eat up a few lynch phases. Indeed, I'd go so far as to say that, far from being a stupid plan, it was a very intelligent and highly strategic plan.

If you are indeed innocent then perhaps we've all been chasing shadows and this is a comedy of errors. Regardless, I call the game as I see it, and right now the most likely scenario seems to me to be a situation engineered by you, rather than by ATPG or by pure luck.

**Ironside** · 12-16-2012, 18:14

Originally Posted by TinCow

First off, when the action was planned I was still alive.

Nope, you were dead by that point. You died the night before. That's why I promoted EF instead of going for a scan.

Really, I would've simply dropped the info in the main qt in that case. Had ATPG somehow fixed it on me in that case I would've been annoyed (since it's wrong), but not insulted. I'll do plenty of mistakes, just not simple ones as this when planning is involved.

Originally Posted by Riedquat

He was the one? Sweet! Attacking us proves nothing ... I wonder what shows of corruption you expected to see...

The only thing we know is that all scum will be more or less corrupted. And corrupted attacks (3-4) was shown the the writeup as corrupt.
And the original attackers had very good stats, unlike EF, who did only small time damage in the descriptions.

I did get an ambigious answer on this early on. It was by PM, since it was before it was clear that we would've 2 quick topics.

Anyway another question. Can a player with high corruption turn it off? As in attacking without doing corruption damage?

Originally Posted by Jarema

no, he cant. but some effects may do the trick (I will not tell you if there is an item or an ability that allows it)

I did take it as the scum could possibly fool scans (the reverse of current situation), but couldn't hide corruption in the attacks. It can also refer to that the pyros could burn the corruption away, of course.