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[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I'm a hairy Japanese guy with long hair and a beard that listens to death metal. How much more un-Asian can you get?

In my case, the same social group is a more viable factor than same ethnic group. I cannot say the same for the majority of other people, though.

Find a Japanese metal fan, guarantee you'll have a broader gambit of stuff in common with her than a white metal fan.

In Australia 80% of Indian women marry an Indian man, whilst only 10% of American women marry another American.

Chinese men are 91% likely to marry a Chinese woman.

Overall it hits around 40% mixed marriages.

10% of American women in Australia?

PVC, My sister and her guy has been together 3 years, but I have only been around them for 2 years as I used to live in Austria. The two other kids my sisters BF brought from his past relationship are 9 and 13. They live with their mom every other week.

There is just no chance I can see them as my family.

Not only do we not have any genetic scraps in common, they have also been raised by non-family, and continue spending 50% of the time in another family.

So... my half-sister have two "plastic kids" (Swedish term, what is the correct english one?) every other week... I do feel it hard to see much (or any) of my familys nature OR nurture in them.

The fact that the boy is a whiny girlieboy of course doesn't help, I feel like bonking him on the head when I see him.

My sister has not adopted these kids, but in Sweden it's culturally accepted that their arrangement gives her equal status in society's eyes (Sweden, remember? Basically imagine famlily views drafted HoreTore).

Ah - I get it. The boy's a whiny little bitch and you want to slap him into being a man, but you can't.

But also - she didn't marry this guy when she took on his kids? Did he marry the other woman?

Sounds dodgy to me.

[Kadagar_AV]

Find a Japanese metal fan, guarantee you'll have a broader gambit of stuff in common with her than a white metal fan.



10% of American women in Australia?



Ah - I get it. The boy's a whiny little bitch and you want to slap him into being a man, but you can't.

But also - she didn't marry this guy when she took on his kids? Did he marry the other woman?

Sounds dodgy to me.

Oh... He was VD of a large company, my sister was working for him... He was married and had two kids, but are now together with my sister and they have a child together. I don't respect him OR my sister for that, it very much goes against my moral principles.

But I am sidetracking the issue (maybe?).


I am proud of my family name. I have a proud family history, so of course I see it as a mission to make all parts of the family a proper [insert surname here]. But how am I supposed to do that with two kids who are NOT [insert surname here]?

[Montmorency]

Not only do we not have any genetic scraps in common,

99.999% is not enough for you?

[Veho Nex]

My dad remarried a few years ago with a lady who had 3 kids from a previous husband. The problem with these kids is that I'm supposed to treat them like brother and sister, but 2 of them are drug addicts without a H.S. diploma and the other is a college dropout who got knocked up by some hippy who left her for a different woman.

If I knew these people in any other situation I'd look down on them. I don't see them as relatives in any sense of the word, but, I'm supposed to treat them like they are my brothers and sister.

For my other siblings I'd take a bullet for, even my half older brother who has a different dad, heck we practically look like twins. The other kids though, I wouldn't take the time to hand them a kleenex unless they specifically asked for it using my name.

[Papewaio]

Stats I provided were for couples in Australia.

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KAV you do seem to be acting like a mother-in-law from hell. "No one is good enough for my family" and giving all the non related family members the cold shoulder.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

What I'm hearing is that Kadagar doesn't respect his sister's boyfriend, doesn't much like how they got together and doesn't like the guys kids.

I've gotta be honest - I'm with the gigalo here.

What's he supposed to do? By the sounds of it the older children wouldn't benefit as much from the offer anyway.

[Strike For The South]

What I'm hearing is that Kadagar doesn't respect his sister's boyfriend, doesn't much like how they got together and doesn't like the guys kids.

I've gotta be honest - I'm with the gigalo here.

What's he supposed to do? By the sounds of it the older children wouldn't benefit as much from the offer anyway.

Why?

[Kadagar_AV]

I don't think I've done a very good job explaining the situation.

My sisters boyfriends two kids live with them every other week, and with their mom every other week. The family is thus already divided, not much I can do about it.

I mean, I see my nephew (more than) twice as much as the other kids regardless.

Also, don't get me wrong. When I am there, and all the kids are around, I do my best to try and give the other kids attention too... But... they... are... so... annoying...

I just have no idea how to relate to them. They are raised so fundamentally different from myself, that my attempts at being nice often goes wrong. As an example, both my grandfathers were ranking chess players. They started me on chess from... as long as I can remember really.

They both absolutely trashed me. Repeatedly. Over and over again. It wasn't until I was like 14 and a ranking player myself that I started to even come CLOSE to having a chance, and I never beat anyone of them before they died.

So, my sisters BFs oldest (a boy) says he is really good at chess, and wants to play me. So we play, and I beat him in 4 turns. He gets shocked as he never lost against grownups before (!!??), and wants a rematch. We play again and this time instead of beating him fast I focus on eliminating his pieces while not losing my own, to drag it out and make the game last longer (and give me more challenge and some fun). When he realize he is obviously utterly beaten again, he... starts to cry. And runs to his daddy for hugs and cuddling... He was 11 at the time.

How am I supposed to work with that?

I come from a male line of race car drivers, anti-nazi freedom fighters, mountain climbers...

Their dad puts helmets on the kids before they can climb trees. Compare that to my dad finding me on the middle of a cliff side, only commenting "A child could climb that" (I was 6 at the time). LOL.

It's not like I avoid the kids, or am mean to them.

It's just that I don't want to bond with them. I have absolutely no interest in taking them in. If I visit I can sit down and play monopoly with them.

The PROBLEM is that my sisters asks stuff off me. "Oh, why don't you take [oldest son] out some day and teach him to inline?"

My honest answer would be: "Why I don't? Because he is a girlie boy with no motoric ability, and given the amount of padding I am sure he would come packaged in, I would be ashamed to be seen with him on town".

That is, of course, not what I have answered... I have said "Sure, let me get back to you..."

But that starts to wear thin. I can only get away with excuses for so many years.

GAH!!

[Papewaio]

Sins of the father?

Look at it from the kids point of view. Someone has come into their parents relationship, torn it apart, had a child with their dad and now they the children get the cold shoulder because of their dad and step mums actions.

Sounds like the kids are getting multiple punishments from adults for actions other members of their group performed. That's called prejudice.

Adults should lead the way and not punish children for another adults action. Otherwise you end up with horrible outcomes such as this: http://m.smh.com.au/world/children-b...102-28nny.html

Stepmothers in fairy tales always are portrayed as horrible. Guess what the most likely female murderer is a step mum. Either we mature as a society and treat our extended families with more humanity or we can expect horrible outcomes as the consequences.

[Strike For The South]

Sins of the father?

Look at it from the kids point of view. Someone has come into their parents relationship, torn it apart, had a child with their dad and now they the children get the cold shoulder because of their dad and step mums actions.

Sounds like the kids are getting multiple punishments for actions other members of their group performed. That's called prejudice.

Well that's just it. The kids get a raw deal. The new mommy and new daddy aren't really new mommys and new daddys.

It's a shit hand all because some people cant get over the fact these children, who did nothing wrong, didn't pop out of a familiar vagina.

Simian behavior at its worst, deemed somewhat ok in society by some archaic western standard of how to pass down property.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Why?

Because there's only so much you can do with someone else's child.

What?

He takes his sister up on her request, he decides to take the boy skiing. The kid turns up wrapped like a Christmas present, and Kadagar being him takes it all off. Off they go, Kadagar teaches, the boy learns - he goes home and tells daddy how his girlfriend's brother is either

A: Actually awesome, because he let him ski without all that stupid stuff on or

B: Crazy for the same reason.

Either way - dad is now pissed.

Or, Kadagar could leave the wrapping on, the boy is encumbered and Kad gets frustrated and it's unpleasant all round.

Sins of the father?

Look at it from the kids point of view. Someone has come into their parents relationship, torn it apart, had a child with their dad and now they the children get the cold shoulder because of their dad and step mums actions.

Sounds like the kids are getting multiple punishments from adults for actions other members of their group performed. That's called prejudice.

Adults should lead the way and not punish children for another adults action. Otherwise you end up with horrible outcomes such as this: http://m.smh.com.au/world/children-b...102-28nny.html

Stepmothers in fairy tales always are portrayed as horrible. Guess what the most likely female murderer is a step mum. Either we mature as a society and treat our extended families with more humanity or we can expect horrible outcomes as the consequences.

Well - family is basically positive discrimination - the only person inflicting anything on the children really is the father, everyone else is basically just along for the ride.

[Centurion1]

psh im part mexican asian and a butt load of different europeans east and west. Screw it. I identify most with being slavic so those are the girls i like but I could care lessl no women are off limits. And i would love to adopt; id adopt strike if he wasnt an alcoholic. Blood and ethnicity is irrelevant who cares if you look like your parents all that matters if you raise them and at the end of the day when your dying they are at your bedside saying i love you dad.

also is the swede serious about this? jesus internet anecdotes ftw

another edit: i guess my father doesnt love me because im not irish enough and am a dirty croatian. Kadagar you just drip scandinavian racism.

[Kadagar_AV]

psh im part mexican asian and a butt load of different europeans east and west. Screw it. I identify most with being slavic so those are the girls i like but I could care lessl no women are off limits. And i would love to adopt; id adopt strike if he wasnt an alcoholic. Blood and ethnicity is irrelevant who cares if you look like your parents all that matters if you raise them and at the end of the day when your dying they are at your bedside saying i love you dad.

also is the swede serious about this? jesus internet anecdotes ftw

another edit: i guess my father doesnt love me because im not irish enough and am a dirty croatian. Kadagar you just drip scandinavian racism.

It might do you good in further debates - if you don't FIRST explain how you have no family tradition before bashing people feeling a loss of theirs. Might make people read what you write with more interest, you know.

EDIT: Slavic? And here I thought you were negroid.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Too much Alpha in this thread. How is a beta poster supposed to contribute here?

[Kadagar_AV]

Too much Alpha in this thread. How is a beta poster supposed to contribute here?

Second one now.

Ok, so maybe my family traditions are meant to foster alpha men... Is that bad by any means?

To use your terminology then, eventhough I don't really believe in it: Can you understand the difficulty of a person raised to be an alpha to accept that he is expected to take care of a beta child and treat it in the beta way?

"Oooooh, did that bad bad boy say something nasty to you son? Come here *warm hug* There there... There is nothing wrong with crying.... just let it out... Ooooooh my poor baby boy. I will call the other boys parents and express my feelings, I am sure they will handle it accordingly."


Sorry, not my style.

I am more the type of guy who would access the kids abilities, give them proper training, and then throw them in the deep end of the pool. I would of course be ready to jump in, but the kid should swallow some gallons trying before i would.

But then, I am used to boys in my family line jumping in at the deep end of the pool when they feel the lust, regardless of age or flotation. I mean, surely, if others can do it so can you? Right?

Sorry for just talking about boys, but we have, like, no girls on my male family line. The closest we got is my cousin, but then she is overly lesbian and in the national hockey team. Don't get me wrong, I love her! Best wing man EVER!!!

EDIT: I don't like terms such as alpha aso... It just doesnt adhere to reality as i see it. Plenty of people are "alpha" in school, to then be complete losers in life. Plenty of people are "beta" in school, and go on to be cool disc jockeys or whatever...

I think everyone is an individual, and the alpha and beta brushes are a bit to broad to use when talking about my specific case. Sure the terms are valid when you talk about the bigger picture, but not when you talk about a single family.

I might be wrong though?

[Centurion1]

oh i have a family tradition and a pretty deep pride in my lineage. I'm in touch with my roots. I simply think your a racist xenophobe. But its okay besides for Horetore the peace loving viking most of you Scandinavians are. Like are you even aware of how ridiculous what you are saying is, you sound like a jagoff.

And guess what most Americans are like me. We don't come from racially homogenous countries with no diversity.

Edit: when he calls you alpha hes talking in a 4chan sense its mocking you I wouldn't try to turn it into part of your argument. Also did you guys know that good white europeans produce tougher more resilient children. I cried alot when I was a little boy.

[Centurion1]

Too much Alpha in this thread. How is a beta poster supposed to contribute here?

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