Is Islam true?.

[total relism]

Here are some debates that Muslims will no longer debate on, is Islam true, or was Muhammad a true prophet. These and many other reasons, I cannot accept the Koran or Islam as being true.

Osama Abdallah vs. David Wood: "Was Muhammad a True Prophet?"
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2008...-wood-was.html
Sheikh Jalal Abualrub vs. David Wood: "Is Muhammad a Prophet
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2008...d-wood-is.html
Who Was Muhammad? Qureshi vs. Wood
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2009...i-vs-wood.html
Bassam Zawadi vs. David Wood: “Does the Evidence Show That Islam Is True?”
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2008...wood-does.html
Osama Abdallah vs. Nabeel Qureshi: “Is the Qur’an Miraculous?”
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2009...s-qureshi.html
Ali Ataie vs. David Wood: “Who Was Muhammad? The Christian and Muslim Perspectives”
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2008...e-who-was.html
Omar Bakri & Shah Jalal Hussain vs. Sam Shamoun & David Wood: “Who Was Muhammad?”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUGTZOYeF3U


Here is a great website that contains hundreds of debates on all subjects.
http://www.answeringmuslims.com

You will find on these debates, that Islam cannot be defended logically. One cannot remain Muslims and watch all these debates without ignoring alot of info.


For some of the reasons I reject Islam besides the info in debates, read post 16,20,23,50,58 ,59,77,145,163,207,227,250,344]

and my twc thread here
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=531553

[Sarmatian]

There is no spoon.

[Fragony]

I'd say Islam has some truths when strictly taken as a social system, I am not religious. For me the costs kinda outweight the benefit though. Welcome to the backroom by the way.

[total relism]

BTW, all your links are failing: Sorry, the page you were looking for in this blog does not exist.

Ty, how do I fix that?. But if your interested just go on that page, hit debates, than look for the titles i posted. great debates if your interested.

Welcome to the backroom by the way.

Ty

[Kadagar_AV]

Sorry, I very much resist living my life after some pedophile living in a desert some couple of hundred years ago.

Civilization has evolved since, you know? I'm not talking about USA, but the civilized world who have culture enough to separate religion from state.

At the end of the day, no one cares what you believe in, as long as it doesn't affect your work or participation in society at large.

BTW, all your links are failing: Sorry, the page you were looking for in this blog does not exist.

[HoreTore]

Likr all other religions, your answer to that question depends on who you ask.

A Muslim will say that his god is true.
A christian will say his is true.
A jew will say his god is true.

A non-believer, however, will say that none of them are true(or at least he won't acknowledge them to be true). If a non-believer said the gods of the religions were true, that would make him a believer, wouldn't it?

All these religions look irrational to me. Hence, I am a non-believer. That, however, does not mean that those who disagree with me do so because they are irrational. Those who have found a god are as rational as the rest of us.

[Kadagar_AV]

Likr all other religions, your answer to that question depends on who you ask.

A Muslim will say that his god is true.
A christian will say his is true.
A jew will say his god is true.

A non-believer, however, will say that none of them are true(or at least he won't acknowledge them to be true). If a non-believer said the gods of the religions were true, that would make him a believer, wouldn't it?

All these religions look irrational to me. Hence, I am a non-believer. That, however, does not mean that those who disagree with me do so because they are irrational. Those who have found a god are as rational as the rest of us.

DUDE, before replying at least try and fact check if you want to be taken seriously. None of his sources works, you MIGHT want to at least pretend to be interested before you start sprouting your propaganda.

[Hax]

This thread is hilarious.

[Kadagar_AV]

This thread is hilarious.

You can't accuse me of being unable to multitask though.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

This is the blog in question:

http://www.answeringmuslims.com/

Yawn - I can't even be bothered.

[Husar]

If muslims won't debate this, why would I want to answer them? Surely they won't even ask me about it.

[Lemur]

Could a BR mod please merge this with the Drunkards' Thread?

[Montmorency]

Because our brains are completely random matter and chemical reactions if atheism is true. No guided direction or higher power. I do not believe this is so at all. I am not atheist, but it is so if atheism is true.

That doesn't really follow. In fact, you appear to be putting forth a lot of premises, and heaping further premises upon them, without anything to support the initial premises.

And why do you insist on the "random matter" angle? How did you come to the conclusion that atheism = no causality?

How about: 'if materialism is valid, then humans must be the sum of their material components mediating external material stimuli'?

Or: 'without a higher force exerting influence on the universe, fluctuations of energy and matter can not be "intentional"'?

I believe those are the core claims you are trying to make.

[a completely inoffensive name]

TR isn't from the US. Our education system is bad, but not that horrific when it comes to teaching grammar and basic english.

[total relism]

TR isn't from the US. Our education system is bad, but not that horrific when it comes to teaching grammar and basic english.

Hey, i find that "completely inoffensive".

[HoreTore]

Never herd of hitler,stalin,pol pot?

lol.

If you stay on this board, you'll find out that there are several members here with far more intimate knowledge of communism than you have. Like me, for example, with my background in the Norwegian Stalinist party(NKP). And of course the person you quoted, Brenus.

To state that Pol Pot "killed in the name of evolution" only serves to show your ignorance of the subject, sorry.

If you're genuinely interested in learning more about socialist ideals, then this is a good place to do it. But you'll need to fix your attitude from "debating to win" to "debating to learn".

[Sir Moody]

lol.

If you stay on this board, you'll find out that there are several members here with far more intimate knowledge of communism than you have. Like me, for example, with my background in the Norwegian Stalinist party(NKP). And of course the person you quoted, Brenus.

To state that Pol Pot "killed in the name of evolution" only serves to show your ignorance of the subject, sorry.

If you're genuinely interested in learning more about socialist ideals, then this is a good place to do it. But you'll need to fix your attitude from "debating to win" to "debating to learn".

Horetore you have to think like TR - he is completely unable to separate Atheism and Evolution - he really doesn't understand they are different things

As far as he thinks the following logic is 100% correct

Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists

Atheists "believe" in Evolution

therefore Stalin and Pol Pot killed in the name of Evolution (and Atheism)

trying to shake him of this wont work - he still wont except Hitler wasn't an atheist and we really ran that one into the ground...

[Brenus]

@ Sir Moody: Even worst, he is assuming Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists. As far as we know, we don't know. They were probably, but even Stalin was a student in Religion (his mother wanted him to be an Priest) before the be Communist. And nobody was able to know what Pol Pot was...
That is the new offensive of the new Christian. All bad people in Contemporary History have to be atheists. They still forget that it won't make a difference as they didn't kill in the name of Atheism, but that will make them feel better... If only they could find one good slaughter in the name of Atheism...

[total relism]

How about this one to get back on topic.

Muhammad hates poets Ibn Ishaq, p. 106—[Muhammad said:] Now none of God’s creatures was more hateful to me than an (ecstatic) poet or a man possessed: I could not even look at them. I thought, Woe is me poet or possessed—Never shall Quraysh say this of me! I will go to the top of the mountain and throw myself down that I may kill myself and gain rest.


must have been some bad poets in arabia back than.

Also

false idea of trinity 4.171 5.119-20
James White vs. Bassam Zawadi: Does the Qur'an Misrepresent the Trinity?
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2012...oes-quran.html

[Hax]

Can you read Arabic poetry?