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    Do I need to break out all the odd verses in the bible or would that be an excise in futility at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Do I need to break out all the odd verses in the bible or would that be an excise in futility at this point.
    I already did the exercise in futility in the other thread. Well, quite some at least.

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    Not so long ago I was told that the cake was a lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lars573 View Post
    Yes Islam is true. If Christianity is true, Islam pretty much has to be.
    That seems a wee bit like a form of circular logic.

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    Do I need to break out all the odd verses in the bible or would that be an excise in futility at this point.
    Please star a thread.Not here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
    Please star a thread.Not here.
    Very few threads here maintain the same topic for more than the first two pages. If a thread is still discussing the original topic on page 3, that's an exception...

    There's both an upside and a downside to that, of course...
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    Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
    Please star a thread.Not here.
    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Very few threads here maintain the same topic for more than the first two pages.
    What's more, when someone wades into the BR with walls of copy&paste, striking about twenty controversial assertions per paragraph, it's kinda absurd/laughable to keep demanding that the posters stay on topic. If you begin with a shotgun blast of far-right Christianist talking points, you can hardly object when people respond in kind.

    In other words, if I post a fourteen-paragraph screed about how the world is flat, and the Illuminati control all media, and monarchy is the natural state of man, and all of this is merely an accepted underpinning for the obvious conclusion that moon Nazis are going to invade Earth, I can hardly demand that everyone stay on topic for questioning/poking the assumptions that underpin my moon Nazi theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    What's more, when someone wades into the BR with walls of copy&paste, striking about twenty controversial assertions per paragraph, it's kinda absurd/laughable to keep demanding that the posters stay on topic. If you begin with a shotgun blast of far-right Christianist talking points, you can hardly object when people respond in kind.

    In other words, if I post a fourteen-paragraph screed about how the world is flat, and the Illuminati control all media, and monarchy is the natural state of man, and all of this is merely an accepted underpinning for the obvious conclusion that moon Nazis are going to invade Earth, I can hardly demand that everyone stay on topic for questioning/poking the assumptions that underpin my moon Nazi theory.
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    Lemur that is ridiculous.

    Everyone who has his eyes open knows that the Freemasons are the real power behind the Illuminati, and by extension, the media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    What's more, when someone wades into the BR with walls of copy&paste, striking about twenty controversial assertions per paragraph, it's kinda absurd/laughable to keep demanding that the posters stay on topic. If you begin with a shotgun blast of far-right Christianist talking points, you can hardly object when people respond in kind.

    In other words, if I post a fourteen-paragraph screed about how the world is flat, and the Illuminati control all media, and monarchy is the natural state of man, and all of this is merely an accepted underpinning for the obvious conclusion that moon Nazis are going to invade Earth, I can hardly demand that everyone stay on topic for questioning/poking the assumptions that underpin my moon Nazi theory.
    Agreed and good point, however, I did start another thread for that topic. So it would be better to post on that thread.
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    Are you afraid of Muslims, total_relism​?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    In other words, if I post a fourteen-paragraph screed about how the world is flat, and the Illuminati control all media, and monarchy is the natural state of man, and all of this is merely an accepted underpinning for the obvious conclusion that moon Nazis are going to invade Earth, I can hardly demand that everyone stay on topic for questioning/poking the assumptions that underpin my moon Nazi theory.
    Brilliant! That laugh was just what I needed, thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
    That seems a wee bit like a form of circular logic.
    Not really. Islam is just as much a Semitic death cult as Judaism or Christianity. And just as valid. As either all religions are right, or none of them are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lars573 View Post
    Not really. Islam is just as much a Semitic death cult as Judaism or Christianity. And just as valid. As either all religions are right, or none of them are.
    That is terrible logic, all contradictory "religions" are true. or they are all false. They can neither be all true or all false, as they contradict. Well they could all be false.

    All pizza has ham as a toping
    either all pizzas have ham as a topping or none do
    so all have ham.

    Some do some dont.
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    Muslims believe the God they worship is the same God both Jews and Christians Worship - the differences come from the prophets

    Islam rejects Jesus's Divinity and instead consider him a messenger of god - since Muhammad (also a messenger of God) arrived on the scene later his words take precedence over Jesus's

    Christianity believes that their namesake was the son of God and as such his teachings are the direct word of God

    Judaism rejects both Jesus and Muhammad as prophets

    the core beliefs are the same (follow Gods code and lead a good life and be rewarded in the afterlife, deviate and you will be punished for all eternity) - this is what is refereed to as a "Death cult"

    to use your Pizza analogy - all 3 Pizza's have ham, you are just arguing over how much ham is right...

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    Why use the example of ham?

    That's offensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
    That is terrible logic, all contradictory "religions" are true. or they are all false. They can neither be all true or all false, as they contradict. Well they could all be false.

    All pizza has ham as a toping
    either all pizzas have ham as a topping or none do
    so all have ham.

    Some do some dont.
    Analogy fail. Really all three are different slices of the same pizza. That is all three religions worship the same god. So the followers of one prophet or the other of the same god can't be wrong.



    But I was really saying that if Yaweh/Jehova is real, then Odin, Zeus, Brahmin, Raiden, the Jade Emperor, etc are all real too. Or (and this is the most likely) none of them are real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lars573 View Post
    Analogy fail. Really all three are different slices of the same pizza. That is all three religions worship the same god. So the followers of one prophet or the other of the same god can't be wrong.

    But I was really saying that if Yaweh/Jehova is real, then Odin, Zeus, Brahmin, Raiden, the Jade Emperor, etc are all real too. Or (and this is the most likely) none of them are real.
    So ... you do subscribe to an "original religion" theory.
    The original pizza if we use TR's analogy.

    Some people picks off the capsicum or the pepperoni, because they don't like those. Others do... but doze it with a layer of chilli "to spice things up".
    Some think pizza need only cheese and tomato sauce and strip away all the extras.
    Some eat the whole pizza, because that will get you the approval of the pizza baker.
    Others just nibbles and give the rest to the dog, expecting the approval of the pizza baker.
    Some just look at the pizza with disgust and will NEVER partake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Moody View Post
    the core beliefs are the same (follow Gods code and lead a good life and be rewarded in the afterlife, deviate and you will be punished for all eternity) - this is what is refereed to as a "Death cult"

    to use your Pizza analogy - all 3 Pizza's have ham, you are just arguing over how much ham is right...
    core beliefs in one god, but you just described every religion in the world but christianity. Witch says, god want all in haven no matter what you have done, good,bad etc. But cant allow you in with sin. Here is a free sacrifice and forgiveness because i love you. Please accept and go live life they way I you should.


    Quote Originally Posted by lars573 View Post
    Analogy fail. Really all three are different slices of the same pizza. That is all three religions worship the same god. So the followers of one prophet or the other of the same god can't be wrong.

    But I was really saying that if Yaweh/Jehova is real, then Odin, Zeus, Brahmin, Raiden, the Jade Emperor, etc are all real too. Or (and this is the most likely) none of them are real.
    They do not follow the same god, I do recommend you try reading the bible and koran, that come back and honestly claim this.

    I understood what your saying, but again that is impossible, have you not herd of the law of contradiction? Something that claims to be blue [bible] cant also be black [islam]. That should be simple enough to get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
    That is terrible logic, all contradictory "religions" are true. or they are all false. They can neither be all true or all false, as they contradict. Well they could all be false.

    All pizza has ham as a toping
    either all pizzas have ham as a topping or none do
    so all have ham.

    Some do some dont.
    Do you even eat pizza?

    EDIT: Just to clarify, this is the new topic for this thread. Whether or not TR eats pizza and what possible foods he puts on his pizza.
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