Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
we can discover if you can back up your own statement.

Originally Posted by Idaho
It's a problem when you draw your reality from faith. You tend to come to the wrong conclusions. Logic and reason have no place in temples, mosques and churches. As a courtesy, we ask that god botherers keep their faith out of law, government, health care, and most of the stuff that matters.

so I asked you
Would you debate me 1v1 who has faith atheist or christian? also who can defend there position logically christian or atheist. Or even, what government would be better atheist or christian.
The first requirements of any kind of discussion, is a clear statement or question. Above you have two comments that are halfway between statement and question, and neither very clear.

Secondly you need some rules to make it, quite honestly, enjoyable to participate in or read. These revolve around no lengthy cut and paste oddessys and no point by point, heels-dug-in, fight-on-all-fronts bor-a-thons.

Thirdly you need an arbiter to keep order and stop derails and point dodging.

Fourthly you need a judge or jury to decide. Perhaps a before and after vote just to prove that neither of us will change anyone's mind.