Was Hitler a christian? and atheist morallity

[total relism]

My oh my...

I don't think much progress will be made here.

I agree, until you realize what the Op is about, no progress can be made.

I think you missed the point, my post says nothing in regard to the OP. Please be mindful that the OP is not the benchmark for a discussion. It merely gets the ball rolling. Imagine living a life where you had to adhere to the same style of thinking for 2000 years. Gah, I shudder at the thought. Exactly what you are doing with every post, alluding to the OP.

Also, I'm pretty sure we had an excellent discussion about pubic hair on a thread about Nazi's. Goes to show the dynamic nature of the Backroom.

I am sorry, I figured it was a response to op. Many have missed what I am saying in op, and understood it as what your seemed response was. I guess I have diffident opinions on what op should be, I thought discussion should be based on op. Than if someone want new discussion, they should start new thread. Imagine living in a time were morality has no base to stand on, such as atheistic morality. There is no god, yet we have to follow certain rules. Dont rape, dont kill, dont steal etc why follow any of them? because other evolved animals,evolved dirt that have no right to control me decide I should. But of course its ok to kill millions of innocent babies through abortion, ancient child sacrifice anyone?. But also, the government tells me one morality, Hollywood another,media another,teachers another, parents another,church another. Who is right? I say no one. why listen to random chemical reactions [peoples brains. evolved dirt] tell me what is "right" and "wrong". No I agree with jefery dahmer on this one.

"if it all happens naturalistic whats the need for a god? cant I set my own rules? who owns me? I own myself".
Jefery dahmer DVD documentary Jeffrey Dahmer the monster within

Imagine that world.

You don't get it... You need to counter his arguments with the other sides arguments as he has presented them in the OP. Doh!

Because that is how debates work.

Is it not, so you have not been responding to op on purpose?. That exspalins alot.That is all I care to talk on, I dont care what morals or reasons for morals atheist have. I only care to show how inconstant,.baseless,illogical it is, for them to have morals.

I agree with Kadagar that there is a foundation for morals in an atheist society. Human beings, religious or not, naturally empathize with others. And even morals could be based on a society's need to survive and compete, in evolutionary terms. I.e. do not harm others, work together, etc.

What foundation than? survival of the fittest? Than you cannot reject hitlers morality,darwins, or my own favorite.

You cannot give any reason that caging up woman to reproduce and pass on my genes is "wrong", in fact it is survival of the fittest. As hitler and darwin point out,
why not as men are stronger lock them up and force them to have sex with us as we please?.

Hitler was going for survival of fittest, killing off weaker races people. He was helping evolution and survival of the fittest. If you do no harm to others, than you allow weak to survive.

total realism - you are not original, you have not made some earth shattering philosophical discovery, go read Plato.

Kadagar - go have a beer and don't worry about it. Aftr the beer, it may make more sense.

I never claimed to be original. this has been pointed out for decades in america in debate etc. If it goes back to plato, than I guess much longer.

Of course it's a rubbish argument. I just tried to meet the OP on a more level playing field.

The argument is not rubbish at all, you have misunderstood it, so no surprise you see it as rubbish. My playing field is the point I made the thread on my OP. You want to create a new field [are atheist moral, why do they have morals etc] create a new field [thread]. As other posters are saying, you have missed the point.