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    lol, Where Americans see 3 ethnic groups, Europeans would see 30.

    Self segragation is a problem , poverty has as much to do with it any other factor and younger people tend to be more diverse. It also takes a while for old habits to die.

    Im not even going to talk about IQ because its not a valid measure of anything
    On the other hand - when you have 30 ethnic groups the group you belong to becomes less important, because it's smaller.

    Anyway - you classify Spaniards as not white, that's segregation taken to an extreme and refined to a paranoid art.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    On the other hand - when you have 30 ethnic groups the group you belong to becomes less important, because it's smaller.

    Anyway - you classify Spaniards as not white, that's segregation taken to an extreme and refined to a paranoid art.
    Spaniards are white. People of Spanish heritage born in the Americas are Hispanic.

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    Spaniards are white. People of Spanish heritage born in the Americas are Hispanic.

    I can hold your hand through the rest of this, if you'd like
    What about the child of two Spanish immigrants?

    Hispanic or white?

    I'm guessing Hispanic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    What about the child of two Spanish immigrants?

    Hispanic or white?

    I'm guessing Hispanic.
    Ultimatley it depends on how he self identifies

    But skin tone, mannerisms, etc will all come into play when he is percivied
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    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Ultimatley it depends on how he self identifies

    But skin tone, mannerisms, etc will all come into play when he is percivied
    Tell me more about their mannerism while explaining how non-racist you are, why don't you?

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    Regarding the official topic:

    Bulgarian media cite a French newspaper "Le Point" so if someone who is a native French speaker can find that article, it'd be great. So this paper states that they were operatives of the DGSE, which is confirmed by Jean Yves Le Drian.

    Article in English here.

    Here is an article complete with a video and interview wtih a French official, although it's translated in Bulgarian so you might not catch all of what he is saying.

    This article cites a magazine named "Marianne"

    The civilian counter espionage unit of the village of Koilovtsi:

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    Look, everyone is saying it was a simple training mission. What I suspect, being an avid paranoid conspiracy freak, is that Western intelligence agencies carry out missions in order to blame certain countries or organizations. We had a recent bombing against Israeli tourists and of course, Iran got the blame. How bloody convenient. Now these guys were dark skinned and that's why they got their faces punched in. They had a distinct gypsy/middle eastern look to them, definitely they were not white guys with baguettes under their arms (I'm joking, I love France and I especially admire your history and your strong sense of nationalism)

    As regarding to the gypsies (aka. Roma) and how intolerant we are, I know I am talking to people who like to preach racial tolerance and brand people as racist from far, far away. You've never had the pleasure of being neighbours with them or indeed seeing how they choose to live. While certainly the BG government is keeping them illiterate and thus easily bought as voters, they are not helping their own situation. Bulgaria is at a crossroads of the east and west, and we have a lot of minorities here. We have Turks, Armenians, various Arabs, Jews, Russians - you name it! The Turks are hard working and civilized, and they are very hygienic. The Armenians and the Jews are smart and cunning and usually have their own business. The Arabs are very respectful and usually trade to and from their home countries, and they have a keen sense of honour and who has been good to them. The Russians feel practically at home here and if nothing, they're actually treated better because they are Russian.

    The gypsies do NOT want to be integrated and they ruin every opportunity of effort to bring them to a normal standard of living. Their subculture promotes the selling of adolescent brides and usually a girl aged 13-14 has her first child after being sold to her future husband. The wives are turned into baby factories because the gypsies mooch off child care. The other day on the news we saw a mother with 18 children (!!!!!!) who's oldest daughter has 10 of her own. So that's 28 gypsies spawned out of two mothers. 200 euro of child care is more than enough for them, and the rest they get by begging and theft.

    Brand new appartament blocks were built for them during the communist era. They reduced them to ruins, burning the furniture to keep warm and keeping their horses on the terraces! They live in filth and poverty and even if they are given the option not to, they choose to do so. They do not send their children to school because it is more profitable for them to beg or steal.

    Typical ghetto:
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    Because we don't want Brussels to slap us across the wrist or America to come and bomb us to give us more tolerance and democracy we actually give the gypsies priveliges - the police doesn't molest them and can rarely arrest a suspect in their ghettos. They run their own internal tribal judicial system called "meshere" which is unconstitutional. When they stop paying their electricity and water bills nobody prosecutes them because "they've gots nothing man!". If a Bulgariain stops paying his bills he is cut off from power and then tried and forced to pay.

    I can go on and on, but remember this: It's easy to preach an ideal without having met the problem first hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    On the other hand - when you have 30 ethnic groups the group you belong to becomes less important, because it's smaller.

    Anyway - you classify Spaniards as not white, that's segregation taken to an extreme and refined to a paranoid art.
    A lot of Hispanic people have some Native American ancestry, generally they have dark brown or olive skin and they don't look "white". Like Strike said, Spaniard doesn't equal Hispanic/Latino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuuvi View Post
    A lot of Hispanic people have some Native American ancestry, generally they have dark brown or olive skin and they don't look "white". Like Strike said, Spaniard doesn't equal Hispanic/Latino.
    A lot of Spaniards and Italians have Olive skin on the Mediteranian coast, too.

    they're still considered white.

    "Hispanic" is a cultural marker for people seen as coming from outside the US - it also denotes a "Native" ancestry, which is historically negative.
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    I don't disagree, Tom
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    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

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    I find it funny that in a thread a while ago a bunch of Euros were going on about how man for man European militaries were as good (and some claiming better) than American militaries. lmao Whatever.
    Nice to know that the French really do deserve their reputation.
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    "Nice to know that the French really do deserve their reputation." DGSE= Civilian (spy), if info is right. Nice to see you ar up your reputation.
    So, summary, Bulgarians saw people on their field and because their colour of skin beat them up...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    "Nice to know that the French really do deserve their reputation." DGSE= Civilian (spy), if info is right. Nice to see you ar up your reputation.
    So, summary, Bulgarians saw people on their field and because their colour of skin beat them up...
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    I find it funny that in a thread a while ago a bunch of Euros were going on about how man for man European militaries were as good (and some claiming better) than American militaries. lmao Whatever.
    Nice to know that the French really do deserve their reputation.
    but then the question is would america beat the bulgarians???
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    No one can beat the Bulgarians.

    We were at war with them and they still stand. And if Serbian army can't do it, no one can.

    Let's take a look what happened with everyone else foolish enough to pick a fight with us:

    1) Byzantium - gone
    2) Ottoman Empire - gone
    3) Habsburgs - gone
    4) Third Reich - gone
    5) Soviet Union - gone

    So, there's no shame in losing to Bulgarians.

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    Honestly speaking, I'm not sure I would pick most special op troopers before Bulgarian country brawlers to back me up in a fight...

    Also, European special ops imho focus more on endurance, while American ones are more focused on strength.

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