French special forces operation foiled by villagers

[HoreTore]

Let's remember that it is rather easy being socialistic and condemning of others, when you live in a more homogeneous and very rich country.

HoreTore is Norwegian, they have oil and lack 300.000 gypsies.

EDIT: Point remains exactly the same.
EDIT2: LOL@ "culture is a hoax"... Eeeeeh.... Yeah, there is NO such thing as culture. Nor are there any black people, we are ALL the same. Sorry, I should switch "Norway" for "Lala land".

"Culture is a hoax" because traits explained by socio-economic class factors are labeled "culture" instead.

[Kadagar_AV]

"Culture is a hoax" because traits explained by socio-economic class factors are labeled "culture" instead.

So there is no gypsy culture, just a socio-economic class? You, dear sir, scare me. Not to mention, the Gypsy's would probably beat you to a bloody pulp for uttering such nonsense, as they are proud of their culture.

[HoreTore]

So there is no gypsy culture, just a socio-economic class? You, dear sir, scare me. Not to mention, the Gypsy's would probably beat you to a bloody pulp for uttering such nonsense, as they are proud of their culture.

Lrn2read.

[Kadagar_AV]

Right back at ya.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

A lot of Hispanic people have some Native American ancestry, generally they have dark brown or olive skin and they don't look "white". Like Strike said, Spaniard doesn't equal Hispanic/Latino.

A lot of Spaniards and Italians have Olive skin on the Mediteranian coast, too.

they're still considered white.

"Hispanic" is a cultural marker for people seen as coming from outside the US - it also denotes a "Native" ancestry, which is historically negative.

[Strike For The South]

I don't disagree, Tom

[Vuk]

I find it funny that in a thread a while ago a bunch of Euros were going on about how man for man European militaries were as good (and some claiming better) than American militaries. lmao Whatever.
Nice to know that the French really do deserve their reputation.

[Brenus]

"Nice to know that the French really do deserve their reputation." DGSE= Civilian (spy), if info is right. Nice to see you ar up your reputation.
So, summary, Bulgarians saw people on their field and because their colour of skin beat them up...

[gaelic cowboy]

I find it funny that in a thread a while ago a bunch of Euros were going on about how man for man European militaries were as good (and some claiming better) than American militaries. lmao Whatever.
Nice to know that the French really do deserve their reputation.

but then the question is would america beat the bulgarians???

[Sarmatian]

No one can beat the Bulgarians.

We were at war with them and they still stand. And if Serbian army can't do it, no one can.

Let's take a look what happened with everyone else foolish enough to pick a fight with us:

1) Byzantium - gone
2) Ottoman Empire - gone
3) Habsburgs - gone
4) Third Reich - gone
5) Soviet Union - gone

So, there's no shame in losing to Bulgarians.

[Kadagar_AV]

Honestly speaking, I'm not sure I would pick most special op troopers before Bulgarian country brawlers to back me up in a fight...

Also, European special ops imho focus more on endurance, while American ones are more focused on strength.

[Vuk]

Honestly speaking, I'm not sure I would pick most special op troopers before Bulgarian country brawlers to back me up in a fight...

Also, European special ops imho focus more on endurance, while American ones are more focused on strength.

Well, their endurance did them a heck of a lot of good.

[Tellos Athenaios]

"Nice to know that the French really do deserve their reputation." DGSE= Civilian (spy), if info is right. Nice to see you ar up your reputation.
So, summary, Bulgarians saw people on their field and because their colour of skin beat them up...

Nah, they just forgot to mention their code phrase: "Eet is eye, Leclerc."

[Brenus]

I just in more detail the story from Myth. The 2 Brawlers, helped by friend, then friends, have beaten 5 French because their dark skin colour, and shoot at them (two of the men were shot in the legs, one had his nose broken and several had fractured limbs. They were beaten bloody, and only two managed to escape.) So on 5, the Bulgarians mob succeeded in capturing 3 (whom 2 injured in the legs). And by the way, who are the several others?
So, in fact, the weak and coward French did quite well as if they were “Secret” agents or Special Forces, they were probably under instructions to avoid injuring Civilian Population….

[Fisherking]

Similar operations are not so unusual. The fact that a Bulgarian Minister initially backed up the cover story likely shows that they were aware the operation was going to happen, though they may not have had a date or location.

It is also true that they would not fight but flee. Injuring civilians would not be an option in a peacetime operation.

Getting caught in a farmer’s field in the middle of the night can be dangerous anywhere. If these particular farmers had had problems with thieves or thought they had caught thieves it was not going to get easier.

It was bad circumstances. Five men trying to run away in the dark from armed men are going to draw fire.

It is actually fortunate that they only got shot in the legs.

Whether French, British, US, or anyone else, it would not have turned out much different.

[Husar]

Didn't you watch Rambo? Let me tell you, a single US Marine would've killed the whole town and then taken on half the Bulgarian army before some evil communist general would've come in a helicopter with rockets and then...

[Fisherking]

If that is the sort of thing you like, then contact these guys: http://www.legion-recrute.com/en/

Maybe you will get the chance to go like this: http://seanlinnane.blogspot.de/2010/...pril-1863.html

[Husar]

Ah yes, but I chose not to say FFL because I wasn't aiming for a realistic story...

[Brenus]

And to be fair, Camerone is not a LRRP. But "holding the Line" things...

[Husar]

How dare you suggest the great Rambo was a marine!? He was Army, brah.

That was the point, if an army guy could do what he did, then surely a marine could do so much more.

[Kadagar_AV]

I love the Marines... Only cannon fodder being damn proud of being cannon fodder...

I'm da THING, I'm da MARINE, no special ops stuffz here nah, I storm beaches and stuff!!

It's where the US send the brawl without the brains, and the fact that they are proud of it I only understood when I remembered that this is in the country where many poor support the American Dream but not an Universal Health Plan.

I love the states.

[Vuk]

I love the Marines... Only cannon fodder being damn proud of being cannon fodder...

I'm da THING, I'm da MARINE, no special ops stuffz here nah, I storm beaches and stuff!!

It's where the US send the brawl without the brains, and the fact that they are proud of it I only understood when I remembered that this is in the country where many poor support the American Dream but not an Universal Health Plan.

I love the states.

Mate, I wish you were standing beside me right now, because I would turn you inside out. Why don't you go grow a pair of balls (or are they outlawed in Sweden?) and actually say that to a US Marine's face? You know as well as I do that you would never dare.

[Kadagar_AV]

Mate, I wish you were standing beside me right now, because I would turn you inside out. Why don't you go grow a pair of balls (or are they outlawed in Sweden?) and actually say that to a US Marine's face? You know as well as I do that you would never dare.

To threat forum members with physical violence is generally seen as rude mate.

I've said worse to marines, got in a hell of a fight too. As you yourself imply, it's not like these guys generally have the mental capacity to answer with anything but fists, is it?

Wasn't a clear winner in that fight though, but back then I was Sgt. and way more fit. I'm sure most of those lackwits would beat me today, but why would that stop me from stating that they are cretins on the internet?

[Vuk]

To threat forum members with physical violence is generally seen as rude mate.

I've said worse to marines, got in a hell of a fight too. As you yourself imply, it's not like these guys generally have the mental capacity to answer with anything but fists, is it?

Wasn't a clear winner in that fight though, but back then I was Sgt. and way more fit. I'm sure most of those lackwits would beat me today, but why would that stop me from stating that they are cretins on the internet?

It isn't cool to say things like that just because you are trying to piss people off dude. Have some respect, and don't act like a piece of dung.

[Vuk]

Marines are, by and large, undisciplined and full of themselves. They have itchy trigger fingers and lack the cool-mindedness required for counter-insurgency ops. Leave em for storming the beaches.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Oh, and happy Birthday, ye smarmy bastards!

Translation: The Marines are the branch that knows how to fight and win wars, and the Army makes better policemen.

[Greyblades]

It isn't cool to say things like that just because you are trying to piss people off dude. Have some respect, and don't act like a piece of dung.

Hello Kettle, I'm Pot, you're black.

[Kadagar_AV]

It isn't cool to say things like that just because you are trying to piss people off dude. Have some respect, and don't act like a piece of dung.

This might be a shocker, but I don't respect your illiterate, warmongering country at all, and their marines possibly even less.

When you manage to go, say, a decade without war... And when the percentage of people having ridiculous beliefs start to reach normal western standards, I might start to treat the country with some respect.

I might.

If you take offense when I state an obvious truth, it's your problem. Marines ARE fodder. Their high morale and special esprit de corps make them good fodder, I grant you that though. Still stupid of course, but good stupid fodder.

Swedish equivalent is the same, one of few battalions where they have a maximum set for the intelligence rating when accepting, not a minimum.

[Kadagar_AV]

I'm sure if Sweden had a population of 300,000, the largest economy in the world, and an unlimited supply of diplomatic get-out-of-jail-free cards you'd all do the same crap.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Marines are still fodder though.

I'm not so sure... Along with the rest of Europe we've pretty much given up on imperial ambitions. Peace and quiet is more valued than having the biggest penis, so to say.

If we need something done, we send in the US Marine Corps instead

[Sarmatian]

This is why I'm glad I'm a pacifist, cause neither the marines nor the army could beat a cold beer and a barbecue on a sunny Saturday.

[Brenus]

“It isn't cool to say things like that just because you are trying to piss people off dude. Have some respect, and don't act like a piece of dung” says the guy who just insults the French on line: “Nice to know that the French really do deserve their reputation”.