diplomacy related tips/strategies?

**mtw2** · 11-12-2012, 09:53

Noone with eloborate ways of setting factions up against eachother?

And some nice tips klc123.

**Myth** · 11-19-2012, 09:35

Getting the Pope to be from your faction requires you to have a large number of Cardinals. Just load a boat with priests and send them to Muslim lands in the east. Done.

**Kadagar_AV** · 11-23-2012, 04:17

about the pope: gift him cash, send priests to whatever territory that isn't of your faith to get a load of cardinals. I mostly played Denmark, and sending priests into Russian territory was a cardinal magnet.

All other factions: I just gift them when rep gets low.

But with that said, diplomacy really is a minor factor in this game IMHO. You might as well give everyone the finger and go pillaging, it's not like you'll have much resistance anyway.

**knoddy** · 11-25-2012, 20:51

Easiest way to control the pope is get a theologians guild. just pick a town without a guild and keep upgrading your church until you get the theos guild. then you can start churning out priests with 7-8 piety without having to move them anywhere.

My problem with Diplomacy at the moment is that I cant get anyone to accept a Cease Fire despite kicking their buts. Playing as england I own pretty much all of france and half of germany. I keep destroying milans full stacks they send at me, i slaughtered many danish naval invasions to britain. yet nobody with CF me.It just encourages you to expand faster. which i dont like. they wont CF me and if I leave them be they will just keep sending full stacks at me. Ive even tried offering large sums of money without luck. I dont know what my rep is like but I have not broken any alliances, all declarations were on me.

only thing slowing me atm is the threat of excommucation which will end with the next papal election because i have like 6 cardinals from my theos guild

**Myth** · 11-26-2012, 14:47

As soon as one of your Catholic enemies gets excommunicated call a Crusade on their farthest settlement and steamroll them. Papal standing + dead Catholic. When I used to play vanilla M2TW my usual choice was Milan due to them being so berzerk all the time.

**Vampiresbane** · 02-23-2013, 00:05

Originally Posted by Myth

As soon as one of your Catholic enemies gets excommunicated call a Crusade on their farthest settlement and steamroll them. Papal standing + dead Catholic. When I used to play vanilla M2TW my usual choice was Milan due to them being so berzerk all the time.

There's a lot going on with Diplomacy and about a year ago I set out to write a guide about it in order to understand it more myself and to share what I learned. It's not in these forums, but could prove really helpful to you guys and this thread.

Vampiresbane's Art of Diplomacy Guide

**Handel** · 03-02-2013, 15:33

The assassins are very powerful "diplomats". Even the newly minted assassins have at least 5% chance to kill any person. So a squad of about 10 assassins can kill anyone in 1-2 turns at most. Excommunicated? Send the assassins. The Pope is a PITA - send the assassins. Playing as an orthodox nation and going to kill the last general & king of a catholic nation? Send the assassins first and kill them before attacking.
But not sure what to do with the foreign princesses - do the AI try to make alliances or try to steal the human generals?