Gen Petraeus resigns as CIA dir over affair; story seems rather incomplete

[Lemur]

So General David Petraeus just announced he is resigning due to an extramarital affair. A few thoughts:

1. It's not unheard-of for an official to resign over bedroom shennanigans, but it's rare.
2. In the US military an affair can be grounds for dismissal, but DP is no longer in uniform.

Sounds to me like there is some other, messier situation, and everyone agreed that confessing to an affair was a good way to make an exit without creating further fuss. Not being paranoid—I don't think there's some evil conspiracy—but this prosimian smells a rat.

Linkage.

[Strike For The South]

I don't know hoss, think he got a hold of one of those voting machines?

[Lemur]

Oh, sorry, I took a situation that is completely suspicious and mentioned that it was suspicious. I forgot that pointing out things like the well-documented failings and insecurities of e-voting machines is fringe conspiracy stuff dominated by the crazies doing security research at Johns Hopkins, Princeton, Rice, and Stanford Universities, the Brennan Center for Justice, and the Government Accountability Office. TINFOIL HAT CROWD!

I apologize, Strike, I really do, and I will never, ever look at a suspicious or seemingly incomplete announcement from a public official and ask "What important bits are they leaving out?" ever again. It's just irresponsible of me.

[Strike For The South]

Oh, sorry, I took a situation that is completely suspicious and mentioned that it was suspicious. I forgot that pointing out things like the well-documented failings and insecurities of e-voting machines is fringe conspiracy stuff dominated by the crazies doing security research at Johns Hopkins, Princeton, Rice, and Stanford Universities, the Brennan Center for Justice, and the Government Accountability Office. TINFOIL HAT CROWD!

I apologize, Strike, I really do, and I will never, ever look at a suspicious or seemingly incomplete announcement from a public official and ask "What important bits are they leaving out?" ever again. It's just irresponsible of me.

Well, you've deflated all the fun out of that.

Getting some strange is probably not the best idea as head of the CIA and there is talk in right wing radio land that this woman had tried to access his computer. Hence the admission and the registration.

Could it have something to do with Bhenghazi or some other kerfuffle in some far off land, it's possible. There may be something coming down the pike that he wants to get out of the way of.

Sorry Dad.

[Lemur]

NOW GO TO YOUR ROOM AND NO XBOX.

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(True story: I was helping a woman I work with who was having trouble with some basic computer stuff. I gentled my tone and tried to be as non-threatening as possible, explaining each step in as positive a way as I could. She recoiled, stared at me, and yelled, "Don't use your dad voice! Your'e using your dad voice! This is really creeping me out!")

[Hooahguy]

Goddamn it. He was an inspiration for me.

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Excuse me while I take down his picture on my wall.

[Strike For The South]

Goddamn it. He was an inspiration for me.

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Excuse me while I take down his picture on my wall.

Why do you have his picture on your wall?

Why are you taking it down?

[Hooahguy]

Why do you have his picture on your wall?

Why are you taking it down?

Back at home I print out pictures of people I find inspirational on my wall. Washington, Jefferson, Churchill, people like that.

Im taking it down because hes not exactly leaving his post in the most respected way.

EDIT: Thinking about it some more, I think Ill keep it up. Reasoning being that instead of fighting it, he took the hard right over the easy wrong. I still think a bit less of him because of this affair, but he still has my respect.

[Strike For The South]

Meh, affairs aren't good but they are a rather common failing of humanity

[Kadagar_AV]

I do the same Hooah, but only Barney Stinson made it up so far.

[Hooahguy]

I think in our culture of raising people up to almost hero status we forget that they are human just like us, with all the vices of the common man.

[Kadagar_AV]

Might well be that the female in question was an operative for some other nation.

It's not as uncommon as people think, heck, Soviet had a whole training center dedicated to it.

When having positions such as his, the ability to reign in the snake is is absolutely fundamental, so it's no wonder he had to go.

[Strike For The South]

I think in our culture of raising people up to almost hero status we forget that they are human just like us, with all the vices of the common man.

You did that.....the culture did not

[Hooahguy]

Anyhow, its not just with Petraeus, what about Tiger Woods and other famous people who fell hard because of affairs?

[Lemur]

The vixen has been IDed. Looking at some images, she doesn't seem worth it, but when do they? Also, with her face and his, they would have made some very strange babies.

P.S.: If this is the first time a married general has played hide-the-appropriations-bill with a female journalist, then I'm the queen of Norway. Still don't understand why this is resignation material.

-edit-

Okay, this is sounding a little more plausible:

FBI investigating Petraeus biographer Paula Broadwell for improperly trying to access his email, officials tell @NBCNews

[Strike For The South]

Damn, Hannity was right

I aint even mad

And Hooah becuase people love to feign outrage over supposed role models. Barkley said it best....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8vh2MwXZ6o

Just replace dunk a ball with killing brown people

[rvg]

Goddamn it. He was an inspiration for me.

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Excuse me while I take down his picture on my wall.

Have you seen his wife? I was gonna be all judgmental, but now I understand. I do not condone, but I understand.

[HoreTore]

If he resigned because of an affair, it's nonsense.

If he resigned for other reasons and the affair was used as a cover, it's nonsense.

Dismissing someone because of an affair is just absurd, I'm finding it hard to come up with words to describe it. Patreus struck me as a quality official, a highly competent leader. Such people don't grow on trees. Throwing away such men because of ridiculous things like affairs will simply lead to the loss of life, as your armed forces are no longer as qualified to do their jobs. What's better? A cheating commander or dead soldiers? Bite that bullet, "moral majority".

If it's not true... Well, it certainly wouldn't be the first political exit of this kind. These things happen, of course it could be the case here. No tinfoil hats needed, sfts. Ah well, someone will blow the whistle if that's the case in a few years anyway; they always do...

[rvg]

If he resigned because of an affair, it's nonsense...

In America it is normal and expected. He resigned just like he should have done.

[gaelic cowboy]

Anyhow, its not just with Petraeus, what about Tiger Woods and other famous people who fell hard because of affairs?

The Tiger Woods thing was the stupidest thing I ever seen or heard in me life.

[HoreTore]

In America it is normal and expected. He resigned just like he should have done.

The patriotic flag-wavers are a-okay with their soldier sons dying because they're no longer as well led as they could've been?

That strikes me as weird.

[gaelic cowboy]

In America it is normal and expected. He resigned just like he should have done.

Why is it normal and expected in what way does it impinge on a persons ability to do there job.

[rvg]

Why is it normal and expected in what way does it impinge on a persons ability to do there job.

Character. It matters.

[gaelic cowboy]

Character. It matters.

And yet Newt Gingrich is still a politician

[HoreTore]

If my question to you looked hostile or ridiculing, rvg: it wasn't meant that way.

I'm honestly intrigued to know how a flag-waving patriotic soldier or his son can accept a lower standard of leadership because the man had an affair. I honestly can't wrap my head around it, could you help me understand?

[rvg]

If my question to you looked hostile or ridiculing, rvg: it wasn't meant that way.

I'm honestly intrigued to know how a flag-waving patriotic soldier or his son can accept a lower standard of leadership because the man had an affair. I honestly can't wrap my head around it, could you help me understand?

Certainly. We do not accept a lower standard of leadership. There are no irreplaceable men, some are more difficult to replace than others, but nobody is indispensable. We can find an equally qualified man who does not compromise his character.

And yet Newt Gingrich is still a politician

Did you see how handily he won republican nomination?

[Hooahguy]

The Tiger Woods thing was the stupidest thing I ever seen or heard in me life.

Care to explain?

[gaelic cowboy]

Care to explain?

He plays golf and he is good at it but apparently our society demands he be something he is not

Frankly the idea that we get upset and or that sponsors demand there money back cos he was shagging a few women is daft.

Was he any less an excellant golfer during the time he cheated on his wife, in fact it was only when everyone lost there mind that his game suffered.

[rvg]

He plays golf and he is good at it but apparently our society demands he be something he is not

Frankly the idea that we get upset and or that sponsors demand there money back cos he was shagging a few women is daft.

Was he any less an excellant golfer during the time he cheated on his wife, in fact it was only when everyone lost there mind that his game suffered.

He's still playing. What's the problem?

[gaelic cowboy]

Certainly. We do not accept a lower standard of leadership. There are no irreplaceable men, some are more difficult to replace than others, but nobody is indispensable. We can find an equally qualified man who does not compromise his character.


Did you see how handily he won republican nomination?

Well thats prob cos there like communists that are capable of all sorts of double think where he can be viewed as a moral leader