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    Default Re: Wtf, ma

    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio View Post
    You are on the high horse when you ignore facts. Show me the modern army armed with swords and shields and then you will be one step further to prove that knives are just as deadly. You have to be a class A idiot to think that if the American was wielding a knife that as many children would be dead. And yes you can call someone an idiot if they ignore physics and stats.

    Today we have two tragedies caused most probably by young mentally ill males. One killed twenty children and he second wounded twenty. He first used firearms the second knives.

    You also have to step away from this myth that guns increase freedom. How is enabling slaughter of children the sweet smell of children? It is collective responsibility when you have laws enabling it.

    Until you either properly enforce gun ownership to the mentally sound it is your collective responsibility. It is called liberty not freedom, it is a form of freedom within the law hat carries responsibility. So either step up the regulation of firearms and test the mental state of owners at least as regularly as car licenses or reduce gun ownership across the board.

    End of the day it might be an individual killing your children, but is the community that allowed him access to the tools. The choice was his, but as he was mentally ill the responsibility lies on the community around him. So start looking at enforcing regulation that minimizes access to firearms to specifically the mentally ill, if the communities don't have hat ability to be that specific either a wider ban or regulation of the firearms is needed for the security of the state. Or you will just have to accept that this is going to be a typical outcome of a non holistic outlook of a poorly supported law.
    Asserting that a gun was used in the killings is a fact of as much relevance as stating the fact that the sky was blue on the day of the shooting. You are living in a world of red herrings!

    It is the collective responsibility of Americans to ensure that the mentally ill receive that the treatment they require. This was the failure of the community. The methods of attack are inconsequential, only the festering of instability which provoked an attack in the first place.

    This is a healthcare problem not a gun problem. Stop treating it as one.

    Shut up about liberty and freedom and the second amendment, because you only serve to deride the conversation away from what needs to be said and you only embolden American pride and compound the problems.

    The fact you try to present an ultimatum of either banning guns or having our children die only reveals that you are not here for anything but stomping your obnoxious and ignorant "empathy" into everyone's face.
    Last edited by a completely inoffensive name; 12-14-2012 at 23:58.

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