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Asserting that a gun was used in the killings is a fact of as much relevance as stating the fact that the sky was blue on the day of the shooting. You are living in a world of red herrings!

It is the collective responsibility of Americans to ensure that the mentally ill receive that the treatment they require. This was the failure of the community. The methods of attack are inconsequential, only the festering of instability which provoked an attack in the first place.

This is a healthcare problem not a gun problem. Stop treating it as one.

Shut up about liberty and freedom and the second amendment, because you only serve to deride the conversation away from what needs to be said and you only embolden American pride and compound the problems.

The fact you try to present an ultimatum of either banning guns or having our children die only reveals that you are not here for anything but stomping your obnoxious and ignorant "empathy" into everyone's face.
Take a step back. You just called guns a 'red herring' in a conversation about a shooting rampage. If you'd like to make the case that the blueness of the sky kills people ...

I don't think anyone denies that there is also a healthcare problem, but denying that guns are a problem is quite unrealistic.

I just really don't understand what people's stake in having guns is. I mean, there's the 'well-ordered militia' argument, but is that it? Is it just because 'we have a right and we want to keep having a right'?

I guess I never understood the 'federal government might go evil' argument either. You elect the federal government. To say people need guns for insurrection is presuming a complete lack of faith in the political system. I mean, I know the Americans have previous here, but the revolution was also a movement that did not represent a large majority of the wishes of the people, led by the wealthy who waved ideals around in pursuit of fewer taxes and less oversight. Hm, a trend.